Sonic The Hedgehog - The Ultra VS Hyper Forms

In this video, we look at Ultra Sonic VS Hyper Sonic from Sonic The Hedgehog.

[iamspeed]

I feel like Hyper Sonic in Archie would be a complete Ultra form. Ultra would be a taste of the power limited only by Sonic himself, but Hyper would be Super with Ultra’s infinite power and potential

[flameblazerofdeath]

"Erase hyper sonic"
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[urbanpie]

I like to imagine that Hyper Sonic is the stronger form while Ultra is more hax based.

Dunno, that's my little dumb headcanon to be honest.

[Kaidhicksii]

Now THIS was something else. I've never dug that deep into the Sonic lore before, so it was a real eye-opener. This was perhaps the most detailed look I ever had at the Archie comics so far, and likewise with the concept of Hyper Sonic. Initially, I was of the belief that Ultra Sonic was stronger for this reason, due to my lack of understanding. He was from the Archie comics where Sonic is generally considered to be stronger than in the games, the name just sounds stronger, and he's not flashing any colors, but rather has an infinity symbol of rings surrounding his chest. Not to mention in the sprite battle between Sonic and The Flash, Ultra Sonic was what brought Sonic out on top, and long story short he made quick work of the scarlet speedster. But after hearing how Sonic requires one super emerald or 1 billion rings to go Ultra, while remembering that he needs all seven to go Hyper (I did know that part), plus all the other stuff you added, now it all makes perfect sense, and I believe you couldn't have put it any better on why we have never seen Hyper Sonic ever again, and probably never should. My latest theory was that if you combined Super Sonic, Hyper Sonic and Ultra Sonic, then Sonic could achieve a form called Perfect Sonic: the final, ultimate demonstration of his true power. Now it is clear to me that that probably isn't necessary, because Hyper Sonic already is that form. :D

[Davanthall]

Man, just imagine if there were such a thing as “Ultra Emeralds”...or “Hyper Emeralds”...

[ThunderNecros]

Sonic: Seizure procedure!
*goes hyper*

[silvurrrboi]

Just wanted to add that in the Archie Comics "Hyper" forms of Knuckles and Tails are basically just Super Forms and they scale to Super Sonic. Like the one time Super Sonic fought Hyper Knuckles and they were a match.

[sonicthehedgehog]

And here Egghead thought Sonic had a "Limit"

[DynomiteX]

This was a treat, cause I was just thinking about this idea recently in one of my more out there story ideas. I thought of my own Sonic Universe that uses elements from as much Sonic content, but ultimately its more connected to the games. (Think Post Genesis Archie Sonic)

Eventually he goes through a Spider-Verse crossover. A Sonic-Verse if you will. With Original Archie Sonic being one of them, and stated being stronger, and even mentioned that he is the strongest because of him grabbing the One Billionth Ring, and each universes rules are different depending on how much rings are in the universe. Which explains how 'chaotic' the rules are.

It'll take awhile to explain it all, but basically, everyone teams up against Eggman, then a revelation turns everyone's back on each other and there is an all out war between everyone with many mirror matches. The main event being the Sonic's with the showdown Hyper Sonic vs Ultra Sonic. I thought about how it would go, and I guess I came to a similar conclusion like this video. Ultra Sonic is powerful, but it is merely an extension to Super Sonic, while Hyper is an ascension. Archie Sonic's base is still more powerful, and thus Ultra still is a match against Hyper.

There is more to this, but I'll save that for the Discord Chat. (Unless someone is dying to know more here) But yeah, glad someone made a video on a bonkers idea like this.

[Hyperjade]

You kind of point this out, but seven times infinity is still infinity. Super Sonic has basically infinite power. Then what's the point of the others?

The best way to put it is control. Before Ultra Sonic was introduced, Hyper Sonic was basically the 'complete' form of super sonic. There's no powerscaling here, because these forms aren't dragon ball forms. They're narrative climaxes made manifest and enforce their thoughts and wishes through unlimited magical power. The only difference is their scope. Super Sonic is essentially the incomplete version of Ultra Sonic... Super Sonic is physically invincible, but he is vulnerable to chaos manipulation. Knuckles has a connection to the Master Emerald, which can manipulate the source of Super Sonic, and Eggman has been manipulating chaos energy for a long time now, hence pulling the emeralds out of Sonic in Unleashed. Hyper, conceptually, is essentially this, but without those vulnerabilities, and a far broader scope of chaos control.

Where does that leave Ultra Sonic? Well, if I had to take a shot in the dark, Ultra Sonic is basically just a single step up from Super Sonic. A super emerald contains the same amount of power as seven chaos emeralds, so the form is essentially the same, but the upgrade grants Ultra Sonic further power over the world around him. His ability to manipulate his environment is escalated to unparalelled lengths, essentially becoming a god, with a vaguely limited scope.

Conceptually, Hyper Sonic is an actual god. Not like a Dragon Ball god, an actual, capital G God that can enforce his wishes on the world freely. A conceptual archie hyper sonic would be that.

[kmooremoore]

Didn't expect this topic! But am glad you did it as I love both forms!!!

[kyky]

“Vegeta, what’s his speed level?”





“ITS OVER 9000!”

[asterjaden]

It's sad Hyper Sonic never appeared after Sonic 3 and Knuckles, I would of loved to see him go against Chaos, Solaris etc.

[taydagoldenphoenix]

My theory:
Hyper sonic in Archie comics is just mastered ultra sonic.

Edit: said this before I saw this scene 14:55

[johncohagen]

If Hyper Sonic were to be used again, he should appear whenever a being stronger than Super Sonic by a long shot to the point to where he won’t lose with just that.

[_Tzer]

A theoretical abilities to add onto the list of ultra for hyper
1. Selective erasure... he can erase stuff in the game with hyper flash multiple AT ONCE
2. negative and positive chaos energy he can use both as he is chaos energy in its purest state not negative not positive but both
3. the ability to power up allies to super level(if super sonic can do this stuff then so can hyper heck he could prolly power em up to ultra or even the dark form... as that is negative chaos energy but its weaker than ultra due to it being less pure)
4. no need to breathe at all

[starboom]

I like how the intro starts out with "Wanna be Starting Something" by MJ. You got good taste Sayian Scholar

[The_Mem]

I fell like ultra sonic was meant to evolve into hyper sonic in the comics eventually since ultra sonic only ever used 1 super emerald to transform
Edit agree with 14:50

[witchcultistes]

I think we can guage a hypothetical current Game Hyper Sonic. Super Sonic's highest peak in games was in 06. He shared his power to make him, Shadow, and Silver into their Super selfs. Solaris's very exsistence was destroying all of time and space, this would include Maginary World from Sonic Shuffle where every dream was a universe. We don't know how long this place exsisted but it would make no sense to say it only has exsisted since Sonic itself has. For all we know this could have been since the beginning of time and Solaris coming into exsistence destroyed this. There would be beyong Quintillions of universes considering we have humans and humanoid animals and other dimensions like Blaze's in the Sonic Multiverse. Each Super defeated a Solaris in a different time period and destroyed his armor which tanked the Multiverse's destruction with no scratches yet Super Sonic and also Super Shadow and Super Silver could completely destroy said armor. Sonic asorbed this mich power without any strain since Sonic has used what he's needed for his Super form since we don't know how much he can take from the Infinite power let's just say that this was his max. One Super Emerald makes Super Sonic in the game meaning Hyper Sonic could be 7× of Game Super Sonic who could take in 3x the power of Solaris, arguably making Hyper Sonic 21× the power of Solaris. This is broken considering current Sonic would still have Space-Time manipulation via Chaos Control.

[random-dtyz]

If hyper was in archie, then I would be pretty sure that he would be omnipotent.