Violet using Joker's weapon was a thing? - Persona 5 Royal Unused Weapons

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#Atlus #SEGA There are a lot of RESERVE Joker's daggers and guns for party member, while other party member equipping Joker's weapons the game froze, like at the last second of the clip, Kasumi working just fine in battle
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Really makes me think she was originally going to be the female protagonist but they changed it for some reason
The characters even mention how similiar joker's and kasumi's outfits are

pangoldie
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I never seen someone break Kamoshidas palace so much

umbral_dragon
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I don’t think she was meant to be a FEMC, she’s such an integral part of the third semester and it wouldn’t work nearly as well without her.

eclecticspaghetti
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“She wanted to try them out. I knew she would liked them.” -Joker, leader of the Phantom Thieves

themastersofdisguise
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Before Joker was released in Smash Ultimate, dataminers for Smash found a file connected to Joker's with the code name "Jane" through a string dump. Supposedly, this file was also connected to a Maya model called "pony_hair" which caused many to speculate that "Jane" referred to an alternate costume, perhaps related to a possible Female Protagonist that had yet to be revealed (P5R had not been announced at this point).

There is a theory that Kasumi was originally going to be a costume for Joker very early in development, but was scrapped since she isn't the female protagonist. It's highly likely that Sakurai and the dev team was aware of P5R behind the scenes, as Joker's grappling hook move was first shown off in Smash before it was revealed in P5R, so they may have known about Kasumi and planned to add her into the game before this model was scrapped. I wonder if Violet being able to use Joker's weapons at some point adds credence to the costume theory, as one of the points against it was that Violet uses rapiers and rifles which wouldn't have matched up with Joker's knife and pistol in Smash.

dc_dachi
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Makes me think, IF there was a Royal anime extension, Joker would get downed by a Shadow and dropped his knife and handgun in the process. Before he would get attacked, Violet swiftly grabs both and athletically sweeps the enemies with a barrage of slashes and bullets from Joker’s own weapon.

After swiftly dispatching them, she would glance at the other members, who had their mouths gaping and eyes widened in astonishment, before Crow said to Joker “Marry her.”

psychochu
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Maybe used as a placeholder. You can just assume that she was about to be the female protag just because she used jokers gun.

mrsalty
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I thought she was originally going to be the protagonist. Since she looks exactly like him and there was another reason but I forgot😂

roadrunnerfastt
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Everyone: Violet is FEMC

Me: Violet is a mimic.

howardyates
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Did anyone from my harem steal something from me?

DonCurri
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I know there's so much proof that Sumi was supposed to be the female protagonist but was then later scrapped. But here's the thing: *The creators/developers had no intention on making her a female protagonist.*

Mikura
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hhmm maybe violet was supposed to be a constant threat that mimics joker n maybe akechi's weapons (maybe outfits too) and would act as maruki's bodyguard while also chasing you throughout the dungeon but that idea probs isnt the case and she was made into a party member instead

dreamyliamy
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What is this youtube channel's purpose for?
Every video uploaded from them promises a lot of surprises

sungin
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Joker: Violet why are you using my gun?

francescogervasi
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In Persona 3 the protagonist could use most weapons in the game, it would be cool if they brought that back.

jackflynn
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To this day I keep thinking about how you do it to be able to use violet in the palace of kamoshida mmm those questions do not let me sleep at night

Yaer_Must
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i guess kasumi was meant to use a dagger earlier in development

breadandpuddingman
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Violet: this weapon is as tiny as your pp

todorokipicturebutitsusedb
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Makes sense maybe it could have been a thing you could originally do in the true ending route sense you have to pick her for that ending so you know your dating may as well give her the gun like what do you really need it anymore your probably OP already but they probably decided to remove it sense the player wouldn't want to be mean but they probably still want there gun you know.

Now I don't think sumire was suppose to be the Female MC but I do think sumires phantom thief outfit is an altered version of the outfit originally intended for the real Female version of Ren (Joker) but sense they scraped the Female MC they decided to reuse the costume and give it to sumire instead like they already have the costume it's just been sitting there why don't we give it to this new character we made and make slight altercations to it to fit this character instead you know like change the jacket a bit add a couple dancer things to it and boom sumires Phantom outfit and the gun was probably gonna be use for what I said but was probably originally intended for the real Female MC the Female Ren (Joker).

Supersonicblue
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I mean well a pistol isn't jokers weapon it's a pistol

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