The Right Way To Teach Cross Controlled Stalls

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Use of opposite rudder in a base to final turn is NOT a realistic scenario based training setup and it should not be taught in that context. The problem is skidding with use of excessive INSIDE rudder to accelerate the turn. This is clearly stated in the AFH. Inside rudder, when slow and with excessive back pressure, will induce a yawing motion in the direction of the low wing causing the low wing to stall leading to a spin. Students need to be taught that this is a killer maneuver. It is not demonstrated in primary flight training and should always be avoided.

Stalls from opposite control inputs and excessive back pressure would occur in a slip, not a skid. Slips are safe maneuvers and stalls in a slip are relatively benign. Students should be taught use of both forward and side slips properly and should not be afraid to use either to help reacquire the glideslope without building up excess airspeed.

TheAirplaneDriver
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Do NOT put in flaps, almost busted my CFI ride because of this video. AFH specifically says clean configuration flaps and landing gear down

martiniv
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Great demo. I teach this in a Citabria during tailwheel and spin endorsement training. One thought though. I’m 67 and you kids are obviously 40 years younger than me. the comment that you never want to start a conversation with “I have a story ““ is the problem with flight training. I have had many many close calls, including two off airport landings with injury in the last two years and multiple engine failures in a variety of aircraft in the last six years. We need people to tell those stories because it’s the real world. you can’t just avoid everything.

johnwise
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Airplane flying handbook recommends not using flaps for this maneuver.

fortheloveofcake
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Fancy new Archer you've got there! ;)

archerpiperii
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I dont understand why anyone would do this, why add opposite aileron when trying to bank steeply towards the runway? Really this is just a forward slip but without paying attention to airspeed, and forward slip is one of my favorite maneuvers.

michaelshannon
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I thought it was more from left rudder, left aileron, then too much left aileron, so you correct with right aileron, while still holding left rudder. The stall in this video was like 1/2 of one second long and hard see what really happened. Why not go up high and let it develop into a spin?

pilotaj
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Aren't we supposed to clear to the left first?

bcfreedomfighterbcff
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Is there any other solution besides a go around?

prathamchohan
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🤔... How about some upset recovery? Full tilt?

JSFGuy
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I would love to fly with you Liz Brassaw !!

natalino
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I think you need to clean up this Demo a bit

BettinaBrentano-siti
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you should not be using flaps to avoid exceeding aircraft limitations

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