Review - Is Shadows of Change Worth It Now? - Total War Warhammer 3 - DLC

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Patch 4.2 launches today alongside a lot of new additions to the Shadows of Change DLC. Since this can be considered launch 2.0 I want to have another crack at a review at it. Let's discuss.

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 - 02:15 - Intro
02:15 - 06:50 - Content - Grand Cathay
06:50 - 14:28 - Content - Kislev
14:28 - 21:40 - Content - Tzeentch
21:40 - 22:41 - Content - FLC
22:41 - 24:26 - Content - Beastmen & Warriors of Chaos
24:26 - 28:51 - The Price
28:51 - 30:12 - Message to Creative Assembly
30:12 - 32:38 - Message to Games Workshop
32:38 - Ebooks & Closing Thoughts

Review - Is Shadows of Change Worth It Now? - Total War Warhammer 3 - DLC

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A massive improvement and it does make me hopeful for future content.
Ultimately I feel like it falls just shy of the 25 euro mark mostly because Tzeentch and Kislev didn't get any real updates alongside it. It is much better though and I'd say if you're a big warhammer fan it's something you'd want to buy if you don't already (check for deals online though!) Let's hope CA have learned from this and we'll see bigger and better things come Thrones of Decay. Timestamps in description!

TheGreatBookofGrudges
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I really like the idea of ​​some factions receiving units from the DLC even if they are not part of it. Thanks to this, beastmen or chaos warriors will be passively diversified with new additions. I think that the creators could be tempted to take bolder actions in this style, the bestiary of the Warhammer world is huge.

Lothi
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I am STUNNED CA repented and nearly doubled (?) the content. When does a triple A company do that? The community does have influence. Well done everyone!

ninsanity
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Having gotten a chance to play with stuff from the DLC, I think they're closer to the mark, but it only feels like a $20 DLC rather than $25 (USD). Kislev needs a rework to campaign mechanics, which the community has been yelling about since the game dropped, and it seems like CA is deaf to that. The new units will be a nice bump to help filling out the rosters, but it seems like outside of Cathay's research tree, CA really isn't doing a ton towards campaign overhauls.

Th_Raven
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A little off topic, but it seems really odd that the Elemental Incarnate and Bale wolves are available to Katarin, Boris, and Kostaltyn. It feels like Mother Ostankya is supposed to be her own faction within the Kislev sphere, but separate, and it doesn't blend well at all. Is there supposed to be a bridge at some point later? I don't see how they could naturally do it. It feels like they have 3 different, opposing factions within the same faction, Religion/Monarchy/Primal in side Kislev despite the fact that they're supposed to be a new 'unified' Kislev. It's just odd.

AshisME
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Mostly agree here, but I for one don't miss beaks for Tzaangor beastmen tbh. I think this is being made into a bit of a bigger issue than it deserves.

runeh
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Why aren't they adding more to the campaign? I don't need more heroes or units, I need a reason to keep playing past turn 50.

Balorian
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I just hope that for Thrones of Decay they do a rework for how Nurgle/Kugath plays. His nurgling buff needs adjustment so they dont have to be within 2 feet of him to get the buff. How the buildings work need some adjustments as well. An adjustment to his economy too for recruiting men, as hes fucking squishy early game that making it to mid/late game is hard as hell. Cuz some genius decided to have him start next to VAMPIRES that are immune to disease! You lose an army early on to them, and you get steamrolled by the vampires into oblivion.

Tytus_Albas
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Race reworks are worth more than 3 more units I won't use.

samhobbs
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The new units feel like fresh paint on a rotten old house.

I really had hoped for solid faction reworks (especially for Kislev). And ESPECIALLY after 6 months…

I really hope for better, more in depth reworks for the dlc factions.

manfredthegreat
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To be worth the cost it still needs the campaign update. CA should change the dlc to smaller ones with focus on one faction and have them more often.

noavgg
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"Race reworks" Never trust a CA roadmap. We got a handful of derivative units, and nothing on the campaign side of the game. I am not happy with this dlc and it's like people have stockholm syndrome praising CA for giving us the bare minimum of what should've been in the original and completelly backtracking on the race reworks we we're promised on the roadmap.

Weberkooks
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I want to say no but Kislev and Cathay are two of my favorite factions and I never played a Tzeench campaign, so maybe...

ComfortingColourlessLight
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So might be an oversight, does the Scribes get access to lore of Hag as well?

Id imagine that be easy to miss for them.

linussyren
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Pretty much in agreement, but man the hangup on the beaks is wild lol. If thats the worst the GW hammer coming down does to this game, happy to let the modders slap a beak on those models.

specialbrick
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They should give Miao Ying and Zhao Ming unique mechanics in a future update. Like researching alchemy for Zhao Ming with uniqe benefits but if you dive too far some negatives

KK-zsxz
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The problem wasnt just with the amount of content, but also with the lack of updates for the factions it covered, which werent fixed in 4.2. The update adds next to nothing to the game if you dont get the dlc.

Spyros_Michael
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honestly, i don t get what all the fuss is about tzangors and beaks, it s not like you will be close to them all the time in battle if any at all, they could be stickmen and it would not make a difference, i could understand if it was a big model that you can see fairly well even when unzoomed like big monsters and all but for infantry?

trifide
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This DLC is 20$ max and that is still generous, especially with no 4th FLC LL. Back in WH2, a 10$ DLC brought us 2 LLs, one or two LHs, like 3 or 4 units per race, plus a 3rd FLC LL and often a generous race update. SoC is 25$, 150% more expensive. Does SoC have 150% more content? ... *No it still doesn't.* No major race updates and two LLs short. However, it would be a very good deal for 15$ along the previous DLC lines if you ignore the weak race updates. Adjusted for inflation and the extra LHs and it might just barely make 20$.

MegaMegatron
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Just played Kislev and the new additions are great! Not used lore of hags but the frost wrym is great. And kislevite warriors make for a good line holder/chaff unit. Druizhina is a perfect alternative to a boyar and golden Knight with katarin makes a really good lord hero pairing. I'd add this extra content really adds more to the race than the original content which I felt wasn't needed playing as Katerine.

jamesvoysey