Will The Dragons Replace The Archons? & What Was Dain's Betrayal? || Genshin Theory

Posting this right before 4.2 drops because life is busy and I'm clinically insane. Do you know who else is insane? Chlothar! Where is Chlothar from? Khaenri'ah! And Khaenri'ah is in cahoots with Nibelung...probably,
Good news is: Neuvillette might get some dragon friends to play with! :D

TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Intro
3:21 - Neuvillette's Teapot Voiceline Analysis
9:16 - Gnosis & memories
10:25 - Nibelung
11:35 - Khaenri'ah's connection to Nibelung
15:32 - Ring of Nibelungen Opera
17:47 - Nibelung's Ring (Authority)
19:45 - Dainsleif & The Ring
21:40 - Conclusions
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[foxxsenpai]

Raiden's "Feelings About Ascension: Conclusion" actually spoiled the raiden weekly boss, so there's a precedent

[kaz]

So I'm not sure if anyone has made the connection yet but allogene translated to Greek means of a different gene a.k.a. of a different species or genus, and from the Enkonomiya event we learnt that Vishaps can evolve into humanoids, combining those two we could make the assumption that allogenes a.k.a. vision holders are not real humans and from Neuvilete we learn that dragons can reincarnate into the human form. What if allogenes are in fact of the draconic origin and thus can use the elements(not implying that they are reincarnated dragons but merely of the vishap bloodline) and Celestia knowing how powerful and thus dangerous they could become devised the plan to bestow visions upon them in order not to help them harness the elements but instead to limit their true potential of their dragonic bloodline.

[slackmartin]

Neuvillette's true power has nothing to do with the Hydro Gnosis. This is confirmed in 4.2. He still has his full dragon powers unlocked even after giving the Gnosis to The Knave.

[Roihclem]

Im a simple man, i see dainslief i click when nebulung ring weapon banner

[TheGwilwileth]

Im all for the dragons making a comeback 😊

[georgebeard]

Genshin Impact's end game is the seven sovereign lending their power to Klee in order to manifest the biggest Jumpy Dumpty in all of Teyvat and use that to kaboom the entire firmament. Thus, revealing the true sky

[BluesLoreCrumbs]

Timestamps and cards will be added tomorrow!
I had meant to upload this one a couple weeks ago, but life got in the way, so I'm posting it now knowing that 4.2 is about to drop and might prove or disprove at least part of this.
Theory speedrun? Theory speedrun!

Edit: The timestamps and cards have been added!


TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Intro
3:21 - Neuvillette's Teapot Voiceline Analysis
9:16 - Gnosis & memories
10:25 - Nibelung
11:35 - Khaenri'ah's connection to Nibelung
15:32 - Ring of Nibelungen Opera
17:47 - Nibelung's Ring (Authority)
19:45 - Dainsleif & The Ring
21:40 - Conclusions

[spyrothetimelord]

We also have Xbalanque's introduction of Neuvillette. The intros inherently are about the characters, so them saying "when THEY return, THEIR true ordeal shall begin" has to highlight that other dragons will also regain some level of their power back. Neuvillette has to be included in that "they" because the intro is about him. Also bonus primal fire like the primordial sea, so probably the pyro dragon?

Random but you reminded me about a theory video I watched about Zhongli. The conversation with him at the end of Liyue's archon quest includes a joke about how mora won't be made anymore, and it was seemingly an oversight and all that, played off because he never really had to think about mora since... he could just make it any times it was necessary, so of course now it doesn't come to mind for him. He comments about how it's a shame that he didn't have some saved for himself before handing over his gnosis, which is needed in order to create mora in the first place, stating that the golden house will have to stop operations for a "lengthy period of time" (what's lengthy to a bring that's been around for 6000+ years?). Paimon literally says the world is coming to an end. Not just because of the surface level issue of deflation (no mora means more people hold onto it, less buying and trading, people lose jobs because no one is spending, and the economy gets even worse trying to encourage spending by lowering prices even more). One of the flavor texts for the loading screen tells us that mora is literally a catalyst that is a medium for transformation and that's why many things need mora in order to be accomplished. To us as players, it's just using resources to do things, but they literally gave a lore reason for leveling up things using mora and all that. Lack of new mora means that in the grander scheme of the game, fewer technological advancements can be made because mora is a dwindling commodity that (technically) can't just be used willynilly on projects. I'm wondering if Zhongli partially DID plan for this to happen because it's a subtle way to shake an inherent foundation of the seven nations. It would be really funny if that managed to circle back into relevance as we get closer to "the end"

[blackister]

This would make sense because of every archons losing their Gnosis (Celectia losing their grip on every regions), every archons wanting to just live their lives without having to care much about their region or following Celestia orders.
Since WE the traveler are on Teyvat, we are moving the world around whenever we do something, the world is changing because of us and that's a huge way for the Soverigns to step forward and take control of their planet. Teyvat is theirs to begin with, and with the help of the traveler they will take it back. That might be the Cryo archon plan from the beginning, getting every Gnosis to give each Soverign power back to their owners so they can attack Celestia together to end their tyranny freeing the world.
Neuv is a good dragon, he lived long enough with humans to know how they think, act and do things. Apep is dangerous but she will for sure help Neuv to attack the heavens if she can heal and be sure to win this time. We might no need every Soverigns to attack Celestia, our power alone is already extremly dangerous and it might be enough with the help of Neuv/Apep/Cryo Archon/Dain/Abyss sibling.

Maybe everything i said will be washed away with the future lore of the game but there's a huge chance.

[reddinareddika]

I think they don't ascend to celestia at max ascension. The ascend to celestia at lv 100, which is why we don't have it unlocked just yet. Why else would they stop at lvl 90, it doesn't make sense.

[genshin_lore_enjoyer]

12:27 PLEASE AHAHA ITS PERFECT

Really interesting theory!

[lathamtk]

14:15 Oi! Why do you have to attack me like that? It's bad enough that Furina's BiS 4star is Festering Desire (which I have) that came out in 1.2, but why did YOU have to do that random drive-by on me, calling me a fossil?!

[cooolguy]

You were spot on about him regaining his authority

[marks.]

probably folcalors had to take over beeing archon without wanting to, but after the energy of the oratrice was used to repel the primordial water she will give the gnosis back to neuvillete, and lifes on as "only" furina

[alexanderericson]

he doesn't say that he will attack Celestia he says his purpose is to judge the gods. What it appears to be is some kind of war tribunal similar to the one that was formed in 1899. It is possible that the actions committed is the cause for why Theyvat is not functioning as normal. We know actions have consequences inside this game, its not just forgotten memories, it converts to energy and affects everything from the Abyss to Irminsul.

It is hard to say were the story is going from that point but Neuvilette obviously has knowledge about who should be in that tribunal since he says "Forgive me for overruling this sentence" This means Neuvilette has knowledge about the old gods he may very well be a "witness" which is a title Zhongli gives to them that witnessed the archon war without forgetting what actually happened. More over the information in the game is extremely unreliable since Irminsul posses the ability to change history ( Rukkhadevata). Witness coincidentally also is a title you use for people defending in a trial, and what is Fontaine all about?

I have long suspected that the Abyss is the true heaven and that the sinners in the game only sees the Abyss as monstrous because divinity is something foreign to them. The game is still trying to hide this truth the biggest reveal was the Melusines born from Primordial water see a cute dog and not a rift hound they also see the traveler as "a monster that will devour this world" which paints another picture entirely. What if the abyssal corruption we are cleansing is the only pure thing left in Theyvat. This fits with taies of other corrupted beings like Durin who experience confusion and thinks Dvalin just wanted to play with him. The traveller will experience the same confusion thinking they purified Theyvat but all they did was destroy it.

If a vision is taken away from a human, most humans feel like their soul has been taken away. This means that the visions may not just contain memories they may in fact be created to harness memories to power Irminsul. Now if that theory holds true, Theyvat is under a tyranny and is possibly the real reason why Tsaritsa decided to go to war, she loved the humans the most as the Goddess of Love. The other archons are neutral somewhat but they also seem to take a liking to humans suggesting the archons might ally themselves with Tsaritsa.

However seen from Celestias point of view humans are responsible for the destruction of heaven and the abyssal corruption. The soultion with Irminsul was only created to keep humans away from obtaining forbidden knowledge which you could easily argue is a defense strategy to keep Theyvat intact. It does however not change the fact that taking away humanities freewill is equivalent with slavery.

All hail Tsaritsa the mother of dragons.

[NamelessZeros]

I have never actuallt thought of this wow. W theory :D

[triduong]

Warning, big spoiler for 4.2 story but I am really confused, hope that someone could explain it to me:














At the end of the 4.2 story quest, Focalor returned the authority to Neuvilette by killing herself and destroying the "seat" and it was revealed by Skirk that the Gnosis is the remains of the third outsider. Was the gnosis not the original authority of the sovereign? Because Neuvilette regained his authority without the Gnosis (We can figure this out at the end because Neuvilette gave the Gnosis to Alercchino). So in my opininon there is two condition to be an archon, to be authorized to sit on one of the seven "seats" and possessing an Gnosis, so is the Starita trying to revive the third Outsider by collecting all of the Gnosis? And is the third Outsider stronger than all of the sovereign combined? Since destroying the seat didn't notice the heavenly principle but only by destroying the Gnosis will.

[vitor]

0:40 Well... That already started on the wrong foot...
No he doesn't and the Gnosis isn't what was holding his powers, and it was never said so.
I don't know why people took the Gnosis as the thing that hold the authority as fact if he never said it.

I really don't understand why so many people got baited by what he said at the end of 4.1.
It was so clear that it was bait writing.

[hasuki]

i feel like he gets the hydro authority not the gnosis, doesn't make sense for him to hold it knowing that he is a threat to celestia

[nothmm]

11:09 I actually disagree. Apep calls Nibelung the "Dragon King" but that just another way to say "Dragon Sovereign" because Sovereign and King means the exact same thing. In the Chasm World Quest, Zhiqiong has this to say about Azhdaha, " Adakka was a king who ruled over this land in ancient Dragon King of the Mountains" so i doubt that Nibelung was a higher being than the other sovereign. I believe that Nibelung might have been the strongest one among the Sovereigns which is why they made them their leader but that doesnt mean he was their ruler.