Jonathan Blow on Swift's Compile Times

Jonathan Blow on Swift's Compile Times

Clip from Jonathan Blow

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[chepulis]

"Someone, help me, the [lang]] compile time is too fast" is a Stack Overflow post no one would make

[sporefergieboy]

I remember in swift 1.0 days certain type inferences took exponential time. Your compiler would just run in an infinite loop trying to figure them out I don’t even think they timed out

[steveoc]

Compile time is hugely underrated when looking at compilers

Go has gained enormous traction thanks to excellent compile speed

[HairyPixels]

Swift is one thing, Xcode is another. It's so damn slow and broken all the time. I'm sure Swift is slow by itself but using Xcode alongside it is a whole new level of suffering.

[southgonholditdown]

Jonathan Blow is so smart and so attractive

[RandomlyAwesomeGamer]

Funny that one of the search results names him and jai.

[iamjhou]

haha Nice one!! Are you going to do the same for Rust compile time?

[sayChristIsKing]

"Reads first page of google"
"Gets views"
How does he do it?

[AllanSavolainen]

After Go, all compilers feel like molasses, except Borland Turbo Pascal 7, which is superior in all ways.

[TeamPuzel]

So is Rust and Haskell, such type systems come at a cost.

[jalalle]

as if people who write about compile time in swift are doing that to praise it's speed (oh it compiled 1m lines in 1s let me write an article real quick) of course it's going to be about people complaining about speed no matter how neutral your search is

[nidavelliir]

This is the definition of confirmation bias

[evlogiy]

Why everyone is so concerned about compile time? It's like those people who compare linux distributions by memory usage.

[jonahbranch]

Biased.... people generally don't log onto social media to brag about compile times, but they do to complain about them. So naturally there would be more posts about speeding up compile times.

Can't wait for Jai to release so I can perform the same "experiment" haha. Even if jai is super fast at compilation, there will be enough people still trying to optimize their build time to fill the first page of search results with similar posts.

[afg]

Swifts compile times truly are garbage, I tried it out and noped right out of there. Jai all the way.

[remcogreve]

If compile time was really that important everybody would be programming in turbo pascal. C had pretty bad compile times back in the day.

[potato]

Not sure about this vid. Feels like you're phoning it in.

[lapieuvreee]

Swift and swift compiler are not the same thing tho!

[mohamaddelkhah]

That's not quite neutral though. The very nature of "compile time" is that you don't want to have any.

[KamaKase]

As much as I generally agree with JB. This is a bad metric.

Type in "headache" and everything is about curing a headache. Compile time is inherently a pain point, so of course most results will be for solutions.