Augustine and Pelagius

The historical development of the doctrine of election is effectively a series of footnotes to Augustine and Pelagius. In this polemical context, Augustine formulated a biblical doctrine of divine sovereignty in salvation in opposition to Pelagius's insistence that it depending solely upon human effort.

[OpenSourceCitizen]

How can you say that the major reformers were augustinian. Augustine wrote: his famous book series: De libero arbitrio (libri tres) (English: On Free Choice of the Will) Luther wrote his favorite book that he said to which all his other books could be burned and that it was the basis for the reformation: De Servo Arbitrio, in english: The bondage of the Will or On Un-free Will. Maybe I am missing something.

[mannycano]

Oddly enough yet true Pelagius was not a Pelagian. Augustine essentially railroaded Pelagius. Augustine did not care what Pelagius actually taught. Augustine wrote to one of his friends essentially as much.

[IdolKiller]

Augustine invented "Pelagianism" to smear Pelagius, as a response to Pelagius rebuking him for returning to pagan beliefs. Augustine even admitted he didn't care if Pelagius believe "Pelagianism" or not, and employed two false witnesses whom Pope Zosimus called wicked liars. Pelagius only affirmed 1/28 of the claims Augustine levied against him. Augustine successfully merged Manichaean gnosticism and Neo-Platonist philosophy with Christian terms and themes within the State Church.

In this interview, Dr Ali Bonner discusses the whole ordeal:

[seanchaney]

What did I learn? A Calvinist distortion of Augustine, and nothing here about the historic debate. Thanks.

[daltonb]

What of Arminius have you read? Because hardly a single thing you have said is what Arminius believed. Arminius was Semi-Augustinian in his theology, which is similar to the doctrine advocated for at the Second Council of Orange which condemned both Semi-Pelagianism and Hyper-Augustinianism.

[ReggieBee-BayouLand]

Funny how semi-Gnostics accuse non Calvinists of being semi-pelagian.

[richardgarcia]

They rejected the teachings of things Pelagius did not teach..🤔🤔

[uncatila]

Protestants added the hyphen Roman to the Catholic Church. Your equivocating here.

[MrHwaynefair]

6:00 "which makes God less than properly omnipotent" - but what of making God less than properly Love? What of the many Fathers *before* Augustine? In the name of "fair and balanced" - I would encourage anyone watching this video to search YouTube for Dr. Ken Wilson on Augustine and Dr. Ali Bonner on Pelagius. The Reformed "emperor" has no clothes - and I say that as one who was seminary trained at RTS (under the likes of R.C. Sproul and J.I. Packer) - and a decidedly "former" Calvinist pastor (which I know doesn't make ME "right")....

[calvinpeterson]

This is utterly false, it's sad to see that reformed believers will not articulate Arminianism properly.

[jonphinguyen]

Augustine is definitely ROMAN Catholic. God bless Holy Mother Church!