The “Good Character” of a Mormon Nazi | #Mormon #WW2 #History

An extract from "Moroni and the Swastika" by David Conley Nelson (Pg 6-7).

As with any extract, I encourage you to read the full text for complete context.

[theeight-roadwanderer]

This stuff wouldn't be a big deal to me if it wasn't combined with the doctrines centered on the church literally speaking to God and it never making significant mistakes

[MPIndy]

And this—thank you Nemo!!! I wish I’d seen earlier to comment & thank you for covering Nelson’s writings—far more crucial than that other Nelson.

[JP-JustSayin]

Why wasn't the discernment working? ... I think Celestial Industries (tm) is probably looking at a massive product recall. 🤔

[stviz]

We see the same MO today, a Mormon man can off his family and people will say how nice he was and he was such a good moral character

[boysrus]

Yuh Yoh, someone's got some splaining to do to St Peter

[nikimcbee]

Mormon Expositor did a great review of this book with the author.

[nomollyshere]

This is on the same level as that entire ward who wrote letters in support of Ted Bundy🙄🙄🙄smh

[timrathbone]

"BYU Law Grad Prepared Torture Memo"
By Adam Liptak, NEW YORK TIMES

    The Bush administration is distancing itself from a memorandum prepared two years ago by a government lawyer asserting that the president's power to use torture to extract information from suspected terrorists is almost unlimited.
    Some of the officials who received the memorandum worked diligently to elevate the lawyer, Jay S. Bybee, to the federal bench.  Nominated by President Bush in 2002 and confirmed by the Senate last year, the graduate of Brigham Young University and its law school now sits on the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which is based in San Francisco.
    Former colleagues say the judge, whose chambers are in Las Vegas, is a serious, soft-spoken, reflective man. They say it is difficult to reconcile his discussion of torture in clinical, dispassionate detail with his background.
    Bybee, a former legal academic, told Meridian, an LDS Church online magazine, last year that he hoped to be remembered for his integrity. "I would like my headstone to read, 'He always tried to do the right thing, ' " Bybee said.
    The memorandum, dated Aug. 1, 2002, defined torture narrowly under a federal law that prohibits it. Only pain like that accompanying "death, organ failure or the permanent impairment of a significant body function" qualifies, Bybee wrote. It went on to say torture is unlawful only if the infliction of pain is the offender's specific objective. "Even if the defendant knows that severe pain
will result from his actions, if causing such harm is not his objective, he lacks the requisite specific intent, " Bybee wrote.
    The memorandum also discussed various potential defenses to criminal prosecutions for torture, including necessity and self-defense. Finally, it asserted that the president was free under his authority as commander-in-chief to order torture, notwithstanding treaties and laws barring it.
    The memorandum said it was addressed to Alberto Gonzales, the
White House counsel, in response to his questions. At a briefing on
Tuesday, Gonzales specifically disavowed the part of the memorandum
discussing the president's authority as commander in chief, saying it
was "irrelevant and unnecessary."
    Senior Justice Department officials took a broader view, saying the entire memorandum would be withdrawn.
    Bybee, 50, worked as a law clerk on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit in Richmond, Va.; in private practice in Washington, D.C.; as a lawyer in the Justice Department and the White House in the administrations of President Reagan and the first President Bush.
    Bybee served as assistant attorney general in charge of the Office of Legal Counsel, a unit of the Justice Department that advises the executive branch on the law, from 2001 until he joined the appeals court last year.
    On Feb. 27, 2003, the Senate Judiciary Committee voted 12-6 to approve Bybee's nomination; all negative votes were cast by Democrats.

[tinacedillo]

If this is true, its disgusting and utterly unfair

[berdytv]

Just like now a days leader is like that in the philippines 🤮

[wishicouldspel]

An honest deep look at both religions finds little disparity beyond location.

Nazis considered themselves litle Gods here on earth. The whole LDS end game is being one after this life on another planet.

I do suppose one could be a god on both.

The perfect schemes 2x.

Unless....

Maybe we werent crested to be God on neither!!! ?

Hmm!!

[Homepageturned]

Was he found guilty of the crimes he was accused of? Dude you can't just give parts of a story that fits your narrative.

[deeperthings]

He had good character. This has no bearing on whether or not he also committed war crimes and deserved to pay the price for it. The individuals tortured and murdered by him in no way benefitted from the fact that he did the job properly, as one with good character would.

To quote Mona Lisa Vito, "Now I ask ya: Would you give a f--- what kind of pants the son of a b---- who shot you was wearing?"