NEW PLANE? - The Airbus A322...

As Airbus looks to continue developing its commercial aircraft programme, could developing the A321neo further into an A322 stretch that was once studied make sense, or is this now out of the question for the short term following the release of the A321XLR?

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[Da__goat]

Essentially an Airbus 757. Makes sense, but, they’ll need to redesign a lot of the a321 airframe to get the performance and pax capacity they need to make the aircraft viable over a range up to 5000nm. Might even need a new bogey for the wheels due to weight, like the 757

[ronaldcharan]

A322 vs 797 will probably be the future competition.

[sh]

Sales and orders for A330neo should pick up. Everything looks mature for more orders of A330neo.

[yoannromain]

Remember when we used to find the A-321 quite long? It's so weird that these days it doesn't look so long anymore. It could be extended I believe.

[Dan.d]

It's going to be tough to replace the 757 airframe. The Boeing 757 was like the sports car I wish I had. It was a fantastic airplane for airline service, or freight and mail delivery. Airbus will need to really hope this new design of theirs will equalize the amount for what the 757 has done.

[ihmcallister]

I see the simple (and relatively cheap) stretch of four seat rows as a viable A322 version. Fuel tanks of the LR, rather than the XLR, and US transcontinental, or East Coast to Europe range. Airlines like Delta, United, Icelandair etc. need to build on fleets of 321s, and in some cases can't find a genuine 757-300 successor.

[terencewong-lane]

Use a composite updated version of the lovely A310 wing :)

[neilpickup]

The current A321 is about as heavy as the current crop of engines can handle. Therefore, a simple stretch is not possible.

The only solutions on the table until new, and more powerful engines are available, is for the aircraft to loose weight and increase lift.

The obvious way to achieve the weight loss and increase lift is for new composite wings. Not only would these be lighter, they would be far more efficient as wing technologies have advanced significantly since the current wings fundemental design was done.

Not being an engineer, I do not know how many additional rows of seats this could allow. However, if those new wings were to be fitted to the rest of the range, could you be looking at A220 levels of efficiency?

[flyguy]

They will need to get more powerful, still efficient engines, a new wing to get a stretched 321 off the ground. The 321 doesn't have lift or power for short field high altitude high temp airports.

[jeremypearson]

With so many planes on back order, I doubt we’ll see another model anytime soon.

[AarronHanson]

Not with current backlogs in a million years. They just do not have the build space and supply issues with A321 sales pumping hard so it ends up a question, why bother?

[stradivarioushardhiantz]

4rows stretched = 37-38m cabin length
OEW: 52t

[haj]

Aa a passenger, I would prefer that Airbus makes A310neo by reducing A330neo's fuselage length.

[kenngoidiomas]

I see huge possibilites to the new A322, they need to hurry to catch new market opportunities.

[jantjarks]

Is there enough gap between the A321XLR and the A330 to expect a valid business case? It's not just about ROI, but about new laws and regulations too which would have to be taken into account.

[trevorwakefiel]

I think Airbus should pursue a 322 in LR & LR with a new wider bigger wing and stretch to the 757 300 length at least with extra mid cabin more lavatories a super stretch so airline's wanting to save costs could also offer premium economy class section behind business Class on such long 11 or even 12 hr flights but have empty room like 747s had on emergency exit doors along the cabin so passenger's on a long flight can go stand up and have a stretch before returning to their seats.
I think heavier double bogie landing gear be required for extra weight stability.
I think airlines would be very interested in a 11 or 12 hr range with a larger stretch to accommodate and sell fares in a premium economy class too for such long flights that dont want to operate the expense of a larger A330 neo range .

[IanSilsbury]

Surely with all the options with the A321 regardless of stretch or new engines would this not be just an A321-300.?

[Ayden]

In simple terms, it’s a strengthen a321

[JasonWoolridge-ol]

At some point you have to retire the 767 and the 757 ✈️

[HondaFarm]

I think the A321 LR and XLR will fit the market just fine. Airbus would do itself a favor to squeeze out even more efficiency and lower cost per seat per mile and extended range on the A330neo program. I’ll keep saying it… if I’m on a 6+ hour long flight …I want to be on a wide-body aircraft with ample room and lots of lavatories on board. So twin aisles it is for me!! 5 hours and under… I’ll go with the A-321 thank you very much!!