350 N831AZ SR22 Crash at Provo, UT and Stall/Spin Prevention

Max discusses the crash of N831AZ, a Cirrus SR22 at Provo, Utah. The aircraft was following a slower light sport aircraft in the traffic pattern for runway 13. The Cirrus pilot was instructed to go around after getting too close to the preceding aircraft. During both traffic patterns, the pilot struggled with airspeed management, flying with a constantly decreasing airspeed instead of maintaining a stable approach. On the second attempt, the aircraft stalled during the base-to-final turn and crashed into Utah Lake, possibly entering a spin before impact.

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He emphasizes the importance of stabilized approaches, maintaining consistent airspeeds, and using proper trim when adding flaps to prevent the nose from rising. He also highlights issues with situational awareness, including managing separation in traffic patterns and avoiding distractions like non-essential conversations in the cockpit. He believes that older Cirrus models have higher accident rates, possibly due to a lack of training rather than the aircraft itself. The crash serves as a reminder of the critical role that airspeed plays in safe flying, especially during the traffic pattern and final approach.

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[remsmith]

You are definitely an experienced flight instructor. You did a great job with your explanations, especially the important details.

[kennethansin]

Max you have given us so many helpful points and reminders in this segment. Thank you!

[dmacnet]

That controller sounds like he has marbles in his mouth.

[Trashhauler]

So Cirrus pilot fails to maintain separation with preceeding acft, fails to maintain flying speed on next attempt and it’s the controller’s fault?

[metopdawg]

The controller was running both ground and tower that morning and it was fairly busy. We got back about 10minutes before the accident and didn’t have any issues understanding the controller. Max broke this down well. This was pilot error not the controller.

[DavidT-ub]

Max, did you correct the ADS-B speeds for air density at 5500’? If not, indicated airspeeds would be about 10% lower than you quoted.

[baddadjoker]

I think I’d be confused as well if I were 3AZ. The problem is, neither the pilot or controller seemed to follow procedure or have good situational awareness.

[caiolinnertel]

That controller talks way too fast, and is unclear. I’m retired ZDC controller and I forced myself to slow my speech when busy as it reduced repeats. I was supervisor after 20 years controlling and would have not allowed this controller to keep working with this kind of speech pattern.

[jherrod]

That controller sounds like he is competing in a speed talk truncation contest. I had a hard time understanding him. He needs to learn how to speak clearly and slow enough to understand Thanks Max.

[jherrod]

That controller sounds like he is competing in a speed talk truncation contest. I had a hard time understanding him. He needs to learn how to speak clearly and slow enough to understand

[markkoven]

In my experience, if you talk slower, ATC will more often than not, mimic and slow down as well…. That said, it just seems that many crashes happen when having to perform a go around.

[Williamb]

very simple, need to lay attention to and respect the minimum stall speed...and if you don't at least be at an altitude where you can recover from a stall.
This was 💯 avoidable

[scottpatterson]

Pretty much lack of knowledge and comprehension of controlling the equipment and aerodynamics. Same cause of most accidents.

[malakov]

Buying an older plane means you might not have enough money for training? Is that a joke? Such a bad take. Training is the cheapest part of flying… get real. Maybe if he had TCAS and a G3000 he wouldn’t have to have real situational awareness like the rest of us poor non Cirrus pilots.