Does Porsche Have a Big Problem? Why Their Iconic Status Is at Risk

Porsche are reaching an inflection point in their history. They've gone hard on EVs. Really hard.

But - could it be too much, too soon?

#porsche #taycan #battery #bev #taycan #market #competition

[OVB_NL]

I'm a long term Tesla Model S driver which is now 9 years old. I've been on the fence for about a year thinking about a 2nd hand Taycan but just can't bring myself to risk it given the amount of issues I keep reading about on the forums and FB groups - despite the high depreciation making 2nd hand prices quite attractive. An out-of-warranty Taycan just feels too scary a jump..the labour rates alone are quite frightening. You can say what you want but my 2015 Model S has been brilliant and whenever I've needed Tesla, they've been good and reasonably priced...even out of warranty. It's a shame they don't make the Model S in RHD anymore...

[SISTIC]

Yep, I’ve owned a Taycan for a year and it been in & out of the garage multiple times. Luckily it’s still under warranty. I’ve had issues with the rear door not closing, the electric folding exterior side mirror making a clonk sound every time it closes—which is every time I lock the vehicle, the paint on one of the alloy wheels pealing off, and some other minor issues. It’s a fantastic car but plagued with niggles.

[paulgaida]

I think Porsche needs more independence in terms of software. It’s engineering has been for decades too draw, but the software is 2nd or possibly 3rd rate. Plus the EV architecture is too compromised and over complicated to be efficient and reliable.
I’m optimistic that this super brand can do it, just worried that the VW group will both stifle its ability to compete and possibly cause a weakening of the brand by association as that group struggles.
Another great video!

[TakahiroYamada-ns]

I have a Porsche Taycan 2022 and it has experienced numerous quality issues and has been in service for over 1 month now.

[Tinyzkid]

What model year is your Taycan? How long have you had it? How many miles did it have?

[GTI_CHHA]

Excellent analysis. Painful to see such a great brand struggling, but Porsche has to up their game to compete again with the EV industry (mostly China). Any updates about the failure analysis on your Taycan? If you keep driving the iX for prolonged time, you might not want to give it back anymore... ;-)

[T-Sav]

Collecting Turbo S tomorrow, delayed by a two days was supposed to be Monday! Hoping no too many issues :D

[jasehkhk]

I thought about this car, but the Porsche sales won't sell me one because he knows how many problem this car has. The US dealers don't even want them back for trade ins. Porsche has recalled almost every Taycan from 2020-2024 just last month I think.

[trev]

An EV is radically different to an ICE car in terms of engineering. Not just engine but car dynamics, weight, longevity. Software becomes much more important and most brands have gotten too comfortable outsourcing major components then doing final assembly, so it's hardly surprising that software companies originating from Silicon Valley skills are better at producing EVs than traditional automotive industry. EVs are really just bigger more complex mobile phones with drive motors. The first few generations will suck before they get to maturity so unsurprisingly residuals will tank because next year's model is X2 better than this year's. Also the battery will commonly require replacement after 10 years and at that age won't be economically viable so that also hurts residuals. Who is still using an iPhone 1 in 2024? Exactly..

[paulcadman]

Good video tabon. The chinese are good and good value in my opinion pnly tesla near them for that. The rest are done for as they dont know value and have bedn soaking us for years. Unfortunately tariff situation may save them from an early bath. If it was a free trade market the legacy makers would no t exist very mych linger . Electric viking channel quite good . Thanks again. Always watch your channel sorry to hear about the taycan

[DanielFrench]

I’ve had a Tesla model 3 performance for five years. Decided to jump ship for a Macan Turbo which was ordered in June of this year. I’m due to collect it next month, and having read forum posts, watched videos (like this one), and seeing 40 for sale on auto trader already! I’m genuinely worried the car will be a riddled with issues, load of hassle, and rubbish etc

[MrSergeiK]

Maybe someone will also be interested,
we have a craftsman in Georgia in the post-Soviet space, he himself has a Taycan and he repairs all VAGs.
He says in terms of design, these are very simple machines.
And watching him repair them, I'm just shocked.
Here they remove the battery and reflash the cell.
I think it will be clear with the translation, the guy has golden hands.
If someone needs advice, you can ask him, he answers.

[ianrothon]

all Porsche's have lots of issues. I have to be careful as my 911 is back in for the third time this year. It has done more miles going in for repair then I have done enjoying it

[conner.]

German car industry are falling rapidly not just regarding tech issues but energy cost on production, cheap energy direct from Russia have all been stopped…… all self inflicting…..

[hughmann]

I think they’ve worked out the Engineering issues on the more recent years, but the software is still an issue. Not to mention the underside is a huge weak spot. Add on that the bloom is off the rose for EV’s, people don’t want to spend $100-200k on an EV no matter how good it is. The last pile on is the secondary market, they aren’t selling. I’ll jump on an original one when they hit $60k CDN. They’ve already backtracked on the Macan.

[RBcymru]

I think Porsche made a mistake using LG battery pouch cells. Tesla model S used individual cells that can easily be removed or isolated fixing the battery. A lot to be said for "keep it simple stupid". I almost bought a used Taycan but didn't based on trade in values in free fall and reliability issues plus delays in repairing them. Does Audi have the same problems ? Xiaomi SU7 looks very nice and could be my choice when released in the UK. I do worry about Chinese build and parts quality as well as software security.

[darrens]

What do you mean by collaboration with Google Volkswagen group has already collaborated with rivian as a joint venture

[MagnificoCAChannel]

Porsche’s problem (and that of all the western automakers outside of Tesla) is not just software but they have little to no support when it comes to the repairability of their EVs. It’s not that we don’t want them, but it’s absurd they don’t have a better system in place so that we can fix it if something goes wrong without practically having to buy a new one?! Tesla’s benefit is they have everything in house, and the Chinese makers sell at such an affordable price it’s not the end of the world even if you had to buy another one in the event of an issue. Add these problems on top of the fact that the public charging infrastructure in most places is nowhere near that of gases, charging is a long endeavor, AND the price of EVs is more expensive than its ICE counterparts practically across the board, we can’t simply say people don’t like EVs. These are some “real” hurdles you can’t expect to just leave the average consumer to figure out on their own

[johnvoght]

Sorry for your Taycan
After 3 years with a Taycan CT 4, only problem a charger out of order, otherwise the best car I have ever had.
A Macan 4 since 1.5 months and 3500 km later, very satisfied.
On the other hand, i suspect that their engineers do not test their car for everyday use.
Example: armrest too short, the buttons of the door key remote control reversed, the buckle of the passenger seat belt knocks the car, no more regen button but a "next song"" button !!
For electronics: the charge setting process for a programmed departure time does not work !!!
I always ask Siri to play me a radio station, because always so complicated with the pcm
No physical user manual, ok, but the one internal to the pcm does not exist for me, we can find one online, thanks to the Macan Forum, incomplete and poorly translated ...
I don't know how Chinese cars are delivered, but for more than 100, 000 euros, Porsche will have to do better

[pjroberts]

Personally, if I were in your position, I would ask for a free Taycan courtesy car since you've been waiting for four weeks.