How Rogue Agents use SHD Tech || Descent Comms || The Division 2

ANNA. Calvin McManus. Natalya Sokolova. Ortiz Robotics. The Division 2. Story / Lore.
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[jackdave]

We didn’t know about Keener until close to the end of D1 and he had someone on the inside of homeland covering his tracks afterwards he knew he was getting hunted by the division so he would have covered his tracks throughly.

Combined with Theo getting Anna working it makes sense why Keener was too slippery for the hunters to manage to track him down.

[patriotamerican]

So the second comm must have been after Black Friday my guess would be a week after since McManus is already in his bunker which I’m assuming is somewhere in New York since the term “Ground Zero” is being used prolifically throughout these comms

[ZKZSting]

Thumbnail makes me think rogues use our tech better than WE do. I know it's just gameplay but Rogues having two different drone skills equipped at the same time or having automatic targeting incinerator turrets like they're straight out of Division 1 sometimes REALLY makes me wanna give my shoulder a good smack.

[railie]

I was just thinking about how rogues can still operate their shd tech and Lore daddy NGN comes through with the answer.

[Jack.RB.]

From the Testing comm it explains all of the Echos and comms we can find out in the open word, especially the ones of civilians with no connections to any of the current factions we encounter.

[isaiasizquierdo]

I have to say that Cal's voice actor is fantastic.

[kingnothing]

14:18 Bro just gave us Division 3 lore out of nowhere. Definitely preordering the most expensive version that'll hopefully come with a watch

[rob]

These are super interesting, and I really appreciate you posting them here because, as someone who doesn't play descent, I would never hear them otherwise.

What is a bit jarring is how much jump around time wise without any indication of the actual order. But some obviously do fall within certain time frames. It is very interesting that, at least at some point shortly after the outbreak, Cal was in NYC huddled up in some sort of bunker. Obviously he managed to survive, and somehow escape the NYC area with most of the players in the area being none the wiser to his presence. We don't have a timeline for The Division, but with the snow in NYC my guess is that it had to be somewhere in January or February following the November outbreak. Enough time for many countermeasures to fail, and for the first wave of agents to either fail or go rogue, but not so long that it wasn't still winter. After all, there are supposed to be some huge blizzards in NYC during The Division and, during the 20+ years that I've lived in the US, that simply doesn't happen very often. In fact, NYC doesn't seem to have snow that often. I guess the average is around 30" a year, but it varies considerably. My guess is that Cal had already left NYC by that point, but that's very much an assumption. That's based on the fact that there were no side missions that reflected us helping him, which you'd think would have happened. (Of course I also understand that Cal is more of a creation that came into existence with the classified assignments in The Division 2, but it is interesting to speculate how long Cal might actually have been in NYC. Obviously long enough that Nat was surprised that he survived, but not so long that he was impacted by what went down with the events of TD and especially Keener and his rogues - because you can't believe that if Keener knew that Cal was in NYC he wouldn't have done something about it. Especially with the forces available to him with the Cleaners and Rikers and his rogues manipulating those groups.) But this also begs the question of where Nat rode out the green poison.

I do like that these did a better job of introducing Birdie, even though we don't hear from her at all. Based on the comms from the Recruiter missions plus these, it definitely seems like it's better to keep Birdie actively engaged in something interesting to her. Especially because in the Recruiter mission she says that she hasn't killed anyone "yet". So there are obviously reasons to want to keep her focused on specific problems.

But what's also interesting is how much Conley resents that. Birdie is free to do whatever she wants. Conley has something that will seemingly be useful, albeit intended for pyromaniacs and arsonists, and nobody will listen to her. That said, someone did eventually come up with the Ortiz Exuro gear set which had an experimental flame turret - which nobody seems to use at all.

Of course, while Birdie does whatever she wants, everyone loathes Vik. And Claire Ortiz actively refuses to work with him. The guy must continually rub people the wrong way to be that unpopular. I know you have thoughts on Birdie, but I'm wondering Vik isn't also along those lines somewhere. Different, but obviously with a distinct inability to socialise effectively. Then again, 20% of CEO's are supposed to be psychopaths so maybe that's it.

It is definitely interesting that the Ortiz's at least survived the initial outbreak. The question is, where are they now? Did they eventually connect with BTSU and fell foul of the behaviour that Nat exhibits in The Division: Hunted? Or are they still out there somewhere. Because, even though it seemed to be after the outbreak, they were still talking about bringing in consultants. So it can't have been very long after. But this may be why the Hunter system hasn't moved beyond specific activations. If the Ortiz's died then there would be nobody to enable that functionality.

And yes. Agreed. If every regional SHD centre had a mobile server and they were being deployed to all cities as well, why are these things now as rare as hen's teeth? We have a single mobile SHD server in the DC area, something Jack had been carting around with the expedition that met its fate at Kenly (which you'd think wouldn't be the case if these things were rare), but after reclaiming that from the Recruiter (somewhere in October of the year following the initial outbreak) it's 10 months before another one shows up (the following August). That seems quite strange.

Last, I think it's REALLY interesting just how strong Cal's reaction was to losing an agent - albeit because of what he saw as a technology issue. He was very upset. Yes, he was probably more concerned about how the technology might impact other agents, but he seemed to have a very strong reaction to the death of the agent. Makes you wonder who that was, and what provoked the strength of the reaction.

P.S. Where are you getting the information about new factions in The Division 3??

[LNHART]

Ah man, the LORE! Im loving it. Keener had to have known about the Hunter protocol since he had access to ANNA. I'm almost certain there's going to be a paradigm shift later on either with the expansion or Div3 where we switch to ANNA. ISAC sounds like a clown.

[Skitz]

“I should have gone wrong after all the deer ive punched”. Even funnier cause i just watched your season recaps and in the one you go “Frustrated, the agent punches a deer”.

[splintershield]

OMG. The Hunter theory is slowly being proved correct, piece by piece. 😱

[Bagdart]

I love these videos so much…you explain the lore better that’s the Story content of the game itself

[orrthehunter]

I am curious why Hunters are hunting down our agent when by lore we are loyal. The Hunters are said to be assign for hunting down Rogue Agents only. However, they have been targeting our Agents even before Johnson went a bit crazy.

[ВладимирЯрошенко-мт]

Looks like frist stage was activated in survival mode in division 1. When everyone including rouge agents was capable to extract experimental meds. In this situation rouge can be serious trouble, so hunters was activated to evacuate the price, no matter how. Nowadays its more like between stage two and three. Hunters work with the black tusk, against the agents and rouges. I think Keener have access to ANNA and maybe, make the backdoor to the ANNA system.

[bardedragon]

Going rogue and using the rogue network is two different things. Aaron keener stayed a step ahead of us and the hunters 🤣. Once birdie explains to us how compromised we really are using isac we'll jump over to the rogue network theo created and become ghosts within the network.

[thenemesisgaming]

I think we should at this point have a choice to choose who we aline ourselves with. I always wanted a choice, and honestly, I think most people would want a choice to become a ROGUE or a HUNTER and see a different story. A choice that would impact their story going forward

[scp-]

Who doesn't love having Mass Effect's Garrus telling you someone has gone rogue?

[Ariel-pk]

It finally makes sense why Rogues are an absolute pain to fight . They use ANNA, the better version of ISAC. They fight without restrictions

[johnlewis]

I just finished all 3 books and seeing the connections from the game and these coms is so amazing! Im gonna need an update on when everything took place in the books at some point!

[orrthehunter]

Considering Birdie been part of the group that made ISAC, it makes her more valuable. She knows things more than anyone we have met so far about what went down during the creation of the AI and the Division.

It is also a bit concerning with Bunker becsuse we heard from Birdie that the Black Tusks are basically using these Bunkers as their main bases now.