Army Ranger OR Navy SEALs? Why Mike Widdick joined the Army!

Thank you to the United States Army for sponsoring this episode and the opportunity to shoot with the Army Marksmanship Unit.

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[roguebotanist]

At first I wished my son would join the marines like me and be a raider but he chose the Army and is now an Army Ranger. So proud of him!

[chrisculley]

All of them have their pros and cons. I looked at the Green Berets I looked at the seals and then I looked at the mission statement for the 75th Ranger regiment. Also saw that a whole lot of guys from the 75th Ranger regiment moved onto Delta the cool thing about the ranger regiment that I liked was that their mission statement was pretty simple direct action pasta rescue airfield seizure and we started getting into some tier one stuff probably did more tier-1 missions than any other unit in the long run of that craziness probably started about 2008 and on we started just the whole mission statement and the training and everything we were doing started changing. But again with any Special Forces Unit that you work with and go to you're going to be working with all of them together. I worked with steel teams I work with Oda teams I work for the Marine Raiders in Helmand Province I worked with Delta teams you're all under us Socom so you end up doing a lot of joint operations stuff and a hell of a lot of qrf'n for each other. RLTW 3/75

[tfred]

Went in the marine recruiter and was willing to sign right then! Then he spoke of this thing called a "open billet" and I was like yea fuck that! Joined the army as a 11x was able to pick up a opt40 in basic went through rasp1 and the rest is history. I'm so thankful the marine Corp was ++ up at the time!

[GTMarine]

I’m a Marine Judge Advocate (lawyer). We had enlisted legal assistants working with us. 99% of them wanted to be something else, like a machine gunner. You do your best to keep them motivated, but it’s tough.

[NoCoverCharge]

3rd batt here 87-91 …I trained with the seals taught them land nav.. they weren’t great at land nav but they were beast …physically just beast …most rangers are skinny 19 yr olds who can just go ..the seals I worked with were just beast who sucked at land nav …it was still RIP when I went through at the old ww2 barracks at Benning ..miss those days

[kajemi]

Was kinda how I did it. I wanted to be a Recon Marine. Because they had the best uniform. But only if I could be Recon. They (recruiters) jerked me around. "Oh yeah you'll be fine." Looked deeper and found out, at least back then you didn't really pick your MOS. They needed cooks that week? Guess what. So I joined on a Ranger contract. Didn't guarantee you'd be a Ranger. But it guarantees a legit shot at it. 6 years 11b Ranger baby. And I will put Rangers against ANY special forces in the world. We'll win.

[johngalletta]

I went when it was R.I.P . And I was a 31 uniform. After Fort Gorden graduation I was asked to try out because in AIT and basic my scores was top 3% in class. 75th all the way brothers. Best choice I ever made

[Rgrrgr]

Same things happens in RIP. About 40% of the class got cut and were now worldwide posted for their MOS. Most went to Korea I hear.

[LOCALNOMAD]

Been fascinated with the Rangers since middle school badass dudes

[billquinn]

Worked with the United States Army Airborne Recon Rangers in Nam and yes we were and are good but the Rangers would sneak up on us and slip inside our circle and you didn't hear a damned thing.
Those guys defined what really good was and is.

[Hew.Jarsol]

America's first special forces, the US Rangers were created, trained and advised by the British Army Commandos in 1942 Achnacarry Scotland. The 1st and 29th Rangers were born. Direct copies of the Commandos. These got disbanded, and later used their new Commando skills to create the 2nd and 5th US Rangers in 1943.
"Ranger" was selected because of the British colonial Rogers Queens Rangers (Scottish border Rangers). 8 British advisors accompanied the US Rangers at Point Du Hoc aswell as 3 SWANS. US Green berets, Marine Raiders, US Seal OG also all trace their heritage back to the Commandos. 🇺🇸

[dallasyap]

It's the same in the Army. If u fail RASP then you're going conventional force but your job will be the same as your original MOS or u may get assigned a new MOS depending on the Army but most likely u will stick to your MOS as the Army doesn't waste the time and money that they spent training u. If your MOS was 11b and u failed RASP, you'd be an 11b in an infantry unit.

[starshockey]

Yes. This is truly what separates BUDs from any other career fields/ pipelines in both a good and horrible way.

Not only does everyone in their mother want to be a SEAL and career field is severely overmanned. The instructors are looking for any reason to drop you and never give you a shot to come back. Just passing and not quitting are a thing of the past. If you get hurt you usually have one cycle and then it’s bye bye to the fleet

The Navy then uses the failures to fill their needs within less desired jobs like Undes Seaman- a glorified janitor on a ship.

When you fail BUDs it isn’t just washing out of your desired career, it is literally the equivalent to a prison sentence. Probably worse actually when you consider how much you work compared to prison.

Many BUDs failures do go on to other communities and excel there tho. I think the high pressure from the level of performance the community attracts along with the dynamic with the fleet creates a level of seriousness that can’t be duplicated elsewhere.

[MT-]

Wish I had this guys mindset when I was 18. My dumbass went into the navy with a seal contract not thinking about failing. 7 years later I got out as a corpsman and hated my life. Only got one try at buds, never got a second chance to go back, and had little to no interest being a medic other than being attached to the marine corps. If I had a time machine I would go back and join the army or marines and save myself from a 7 year prison sentence.

[mikeboyer]

In the Navy based on your Asvab scores you qualify for rates (MOS). During Boot Camp they ask you if you want to tryout for Seals. You go pass a test given by Seals in Boot Camp and if you pass then you go to A school and when you pass then send you to Buds. You fail, you go do your rate that you went in A school for the remainer of your contract. There is NO infrantry in the Navy, unless you can float on the water like Jesus. The infantry of the Navy are the Marines. That's why they have a big anchor in their symbol. Seals are not infrantry. Navy already has infantry with the Marines. Seals are a special operations force. Infantry has the mission of taking and more importantly hold an area. SEAL teams are to hit a target by surprise and hard and almost immediately leave the target area and other missions like rescue and reconnaissance. Anything in the water, shipping lanes, ports and ships that's what Seals do best. They are Navy.

[michaelross]

The ignorance of some of the wanna-be's in the comments is pretty bad. Unless you are Combat Arms dude or SOF guy. Might want to comment less, listen more.

[vypersoft]

I went through RIP at Ft. Lewis on the old North Fort, right after Mt. St. Helens blew up.

[equigflightgaracia]

Fixing to Go Saddleback Horsetime. Check some fencelines Cows Grabs some Cubes. Cabin time Gead back check some Back Fences and see what's up.

[razheer]

Should've chosen a rating of 8404 Corpsman. If you failed BUD/s, which most guys I served with did, you'll still get attached to Marine Infantry to train and deploy as an infantry corpsman.

[EpsteinNooseSolutions]

Exactly why I didn’t join the marines and I didn’t try to go SF. Ranger was the best choice for new guys tryin to go SOF. 18x would re class you to radar or something lame if you failed SFAS. Which was scary and dumb to me.