What really matters when helping patients: Interview with Dr. Steven Hayes

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This interview had, as canvas, Dr. Hayes' book "get out of your mind and into your life".
Dr. Hayes is a Professor of Psychology in the Behavior Analysis program at the University of Nevada. Author of 47 books and nearly 670 scientific articles, his career has focused on the analysis of human language and cognition and the application of this to the understanding and alleviation of human suffering. He is more famous for being the developer of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT).
In 1992 he was listed by the Institute for Scientific Information as one of the most important psychologists in the world.
Most of his writings ARE FOR US, PROFESSIONALS, and he wrote one of my favorite books of all times, "THE SCIENTIST PRACTITIONER" where he and co authors cover strategies to systematize data collection in clinical practice to prevent observation biases . I have been a personal fan of his work since the year 2000 when I attended a conference in Brazil and someone handed me some jerry rigged translation of one of his books to Portuguese. Despite the fact that his writings are mostly for professionals, what made me decide to invite him for the podcast was a book written for lay folks named: Get out of your mind and into your life", I thought that title was so reflective of our current struggles in the field that I used the book as the canvas for this chat.
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I wish he would come out with a self-help book aimed at laymen about Process Therapy and how it can be used in conjunction with his ACT books.

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It seems therapists should also be researchers (measuring what changes week by week) of processes.

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What were anti depressants called first? He does not say.

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