Would I still use PHP in 2023?

The top languages for web app creation include, PHP, JavaScript, Python, Java, C# ... and perhaps Ruby.

Which one would I choose in 2023?

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[jamessullenriot]

I "left" PHP in 2016/17 for the react/node hype train. It was cool at first but after dealing with multiple frameworks and package.json nonsense and then huge debates about whether we should use yarn over npm, then arguing back to npm once we shifted to yarn ... omg, PHP was not bad at all 😂

[seanb]

I believe the best advantage of PHP 8.1+ is JIT support for ARM. I have found that the AWS Graviton is a good bang for the buck and performant. I worked on a small-mid sized project and saved about 65-70% the application servers just by upgrading to PHP 8.1 and Graviton 2(The application could perform better with 2 fewer servers). It was very impressive.

[rapideye]

I have been using PHP since 5.4...loved it then, love it now

[mracipayam]

Thanks uncle Stefan, i was struggling to decide backend tech for my own bussiness, first i choose .net core for i know C# but i was looking for more quick and easy solution like php. Decisions taken thanks to you.

[pabloripoll]

Hi Stef, I agree with you. It's a good relief someone with your experience tells the truth to the community. I'm a PHP developer since version 4. The greatest changes in PHP came with version 5.6 and was THE revolution inside PHP community. So, any further changes surpassed whatever expectation to a 6 version - so they jump into 7 directly, that is what I remember I read those days in though there is another better history built up later. Another big step came with 7.4 and the last one greater change comes with PHP 8 but for me specifically with 8.2.

[joeyboli]

I learnt php in less than a month and the OOP aspect in another month. i currently use PHP to build APIs for my Saas Application.

[Hobbitstomper]

I started with PHP in 2002. Been working as a web developer on and off for the past 20 years. I've use PHP and NodeJS for years and both have their pros and cons. However as of PHP 8.x I find PHP took the lead again. All the things that gave NodeJS stand out because PHP lacked those features, is now part of PHP and more. The issue? PHPs reputation is still tainted from the issues it had between 2006-2015. Kids these days educate themselves on social media, and programming memes are in an endless loop of hammering on PHP and hailing NodeJS as if it was 2012.

[hoelflores]

Nowadays i use PHP and Python along with xml and mysql for the backend. Php for building the web, and python for the websockets. yeah both are simple to use, although i dont like the indentation of python.

[murtza.rehman]

PHP is easy to deploy. On point; most relevant info.

[allsparky]

Hey Stef, these videos are invaluable, and I just want to say thank you for all the incredible content! Much love to you and yours! ❤

[uros]

Coding a complex web app for my business and this video came in the right time. I was overwhelmed by 1000 different technologies that are more “optimal”. The video cleared lots of things out.

Thank you Stef.

[Whyoakdbi]

People arguing about which language is better.. Honestly, who cares? I have chosen the one which gives me the best job opportunities aka the most money. The language is just a tool to achieve a goal.

[pierreclavequin]

Another reason to use PHP is that it runs unit tests much faster than other languages (Java, Node, Go, Python, etc..), around 10ms for PHP, 300 ms for others at best.. When combined with a watcher re-executing unit tests when the code changed (ie. phpunit watcher), this is really a game changer for delivering fast high quality code.

[ohwow]

Great advice as always. I really enjoyed PHP as a beginner.
And you roasted Ruby once again 😭😂

[richard-schneider]

hey Stefan. Thanks for your content. great!

[banjofoluso]

Yes, PhP is still a very relavant programming language

[NoahNobody]

It's now 2024, and I've been using PHP for over a decade. It has improved a lot, but now I'm moving to Go because.
It is easy to learn, especially for an PHP dev.
It's faster than PHP.
It has a type system, which for me is now an essential for professional solutions.
It does concurrency.
It's easy to distribute (single binary).
It has lots of nice built in features, like tools for building, testing, and analyzing code.
Big community and rich ecosystem.
Backed by big players.

[altimangordon]

Thanks Uncle Stef, Learning PHP and loving it, just really trying understanding while building stuff, anyone know where I can learn PHP all day while getting paid let me know!

[EER]

I work mostly in dotnet, but for small projects I would use PHP if only for the fact that it is interpreted and super easy to deploy. For a big app I am not sure, but I am nit opposed out of principle))

[gavroshtheswift]

“Except for Ruby” lol never change uncle stef