LLF - Is There Any Integrity Left?

11 people who were on the Working Groups for Living in Love and Faith (LLF), have released a shocking statement saying nothing they recommended as a group will be brought before the General Synod!

Statement Link:

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[RevBrettMurphy]

Living in Lust and Fornication never had any integrity! The fact it even exists shows an incredible departure from scripture and a clear desire by the revisionists to push the church into sexual immortality and apostasy.

[davidcressey]

Dan, the truth is that the differences are irreconcilable. The Alliances's time would be better spent managing the separation and declaring the word of the Lord. Oil and water do not mix. Have no fellowship with those who promote and indeed celebrate sin.
2 Cor 6:17 Therefore “Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you.”

[chrisstewartbenson]

I now stand on the solid dock of a GAFcon church and sadly watch the ship of the C of E slowly sinking, as the crew keeps drilling more holes in its side! Is there a life raft for the Orthodox left on the boat I ask myself to row towards a bible believing church for salvation? Chris x

[Raymond-wi]

I left the C of E and now attend a Free Evangelical Church

[lairdandjanjones]

Five of us at our parish here in Canada had an extended review of the LLF paper, myself as warden, our English priest and 3 others - it declares openness to all views but a "bent" clearly appears - we gave it a good hard look and many hours of meetings on whether to bring it to the parish - unanimously turned down and scrapped - we are a conservative parish in the Anglican church of Canada, a feat in itself

[jennyhodgson]

I left the C of E and joined my local bible believing Baptist church

[johnbristow]

Surely “compromise” is a word neither side can use. Sad though it is, I think that the sooner there is a clean break between LLF and conservatives the better.

[danielhixon]

In my opinion, the "LLF process" had a pre-determined outcome from the start. The Revisionists talk a big game about "listening" and "mutual flourishing" and such high-minded ideals; but in fact they are willing to manipulate the processes if necessary to have their way in the end. Period. At this point, if the C of E leaders do push for further accommodation of revisionist faith & morals (and I expect they will ram it through), I hope the Alliance and other groups will indeed create a third Province that can walk in true fellowship with Anglicans in the Global South and GAFCON provinces.

[sezziek]

Rev Brett Murphy calls it.. “Living in Lust and Fornication”

[andrewm]

Orthodox these days by the grace of God ☦ Christ is risen ☦

[jkk]

Once again, if these liberal Bishops and clergy clearly disagree so heavily with official Church of England teaching, why are they even there in the first place? Surely the Methodist Church would be suitable for their personal theology?

[davefoster]

Compromise. Did Jesus wander about the place compromising with people? Sounds like sitting down with the devil and trying to hammer out a deal.There is truth and there are lies - no middle ground.

[leskaighin]

Not fully open and honest. That sums it all up.

[PeterbFree]

There can be no "unity" when the Word of God is being ignored. The worst part of this is the deception that is being deployed on gay people. They are being told that they can remain in their sin but yet are covered by the sacrifice of Jesus and are therefore holy and acceptable before God. And considering that the church leadership has so blatantly lied to them, they might just be forgiven on judgment day. However, will the leadership of the church be forgiven on judgment day? The Fear of the Lord is completely absent here.

[iancallard]

Andrew Goddard has written
It is clear that not all of these contributors are quite on the same page from the fact that the language of “three spaces” which Bishop Martyn introduced only two weeks ago (and I explored and Ian Paul has critiqued) has been withdrawn late in the process (para 10, p. 4). Instead we have simply returned to the language of “a generous space where all can thrive and where different theological convictions are honoured, recognising also that there are many congregations where a diversity of views of held” (para 4, p. 1). Despite having questions about how “three spaces” was being used, this is I think a retrograde step as it risks avoiding the need to face the deep doctrinal divisions we are facing and their implications for the nature of our unity.

[davidsprouse]

Bread is made for laughter, and wine gladdens life, and money answers everything <ecc 10:19>

[johnharrison]

“Is THERE any Integrity Left?” .!??!

[alanhowe]

No - none. It's the end of the CofE, institutionally speaking.

[kenbeach]

So you have those who love righteousness and those who love wickedness in the same religious institution having conversations about how they can compromise and mutually flourish together. Forging unity beteeen those who believe the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God and those who think they will.

Find a spirit of pragmatism. It's a spirit alright!

It is not maintaining the unity of the faith, but rather a grotesque caricature of it.

[michaelhutchins]

It appears that an "honest and even-handed compromise" is probably impossible. So now what?