Another SDA Pioneer Reminds Us Why Adventism Isn’t Christian

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From our larger presentation on the SDA Pioneers, we examine a couple of quotes from SDA Pioneer, J.N. Andrews, who was an anti-trinitarian heretic that influenced SDA theology early on.

CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro: John Nevins Andrews
4:44 - Uriah Smith Anti-Trinitarian Quotes
5:02 - Ted Wilson Contradictory Statements
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The Gospel of Jesus Christ:
Man is a sinner (Romans 3:23; 1 John 1:8) and our sin has separated us from our Maker (Isaiah 59:2). In His grace, God entered into His own creation in the person of Jesus Christ (John 1:1-14; Col. 1:19), born of a virgin (Matt. 1:23), and lived a perfect and sinless life, fulfilling all the Law’s demands (2 Cor. 5:21; Matt. 5:17), on a mission by God the Father to save sinners from condemnation (John 3:16-18, 6:37-40). He paid the penalty for sin which is death (Romans 6:23) and bore the sins of His people in His body on a cross (1 Peter 2:24), making propitiation by His blood (Romans 3:25). He died, was buried, and resurrected in the same body He died in on the third day for our justification (1 Cor. 15, Romans 4:25; Luke 24:39). By a living faith (James 2:18) in the Person and Work of Jesus (Romans 10:9-10), God graciously declares a person righteous (Romans 4:5), they are reconciled to their Creator (Romans 5:10-11), given Christ’s righteousness in full (Phil. 3:8-9), sealed with the Holy Spirit (Eph. 1:13), and have peace with God (Romans 5:1). They are born again of the Spirit (1 John 5:1, Titus 3:5), adopted into His family (Eph. 4:5–7), and are granted eternal resurrection life in Jesus Christ (1 John 5:11), set free to do good works that please Him (Eph. 2:10; 1 John 2:3-4). Jesus will physically return one day to judge the living and the dead (1 Peter 4:5; Acts 24:15; John 5:24-5), throwing the wicked out of His Kingdom (Matt. 13:41-3), but His people will be spared from the wrath to come (1 Thess. 1:10) to dwell in union with God forever (Rev. 21:3).

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Some of my most cherished memories were staying up late with my granny watching 3ABN and her teaching me about the Love of Christ and doctrine. At a young age I felt so close to God and in those times it felt like Jesus was there hugging me and my granny all throughout the night. It brings tears to my eyes to now know most of that stuff was lies and heresy and all I was feeling was projected emotions. I’m so lost man

OnBail-gqcb
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yes, it is ridiculous and there is a lot coming out these days from Second Temple Judaism on the Trinity. Not that there was stuff lacking before, there was already plenty of stuff on the 8th day and the writings of the Apostolic Fathers concerning the Lord' day etc.

PavelMosko
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Your video was interesting but if you would apply your logic to all of the reformers, Luther, Calvin on and on would they all be heretics because they did not have everything perfect before they died? They were influenced by where they came from. People start in one place and are on a progression of understanding.
The title on your video says "Another SDA Pioneer Reminds Us Why Adventism Isn’t Christian". So do Adventists believe what JN Andrews did when he was in his 20s? Or did they change their view. If their view today is Biblical (belief in the Trinity God the Father, God the son and the Holy Spirit) all one in mind and purpose eternal in existence, then is not the title of the video misleading?
I started as an atheist and have progressed to a believer in the Bible and accepted Jesus as my Lord and savior. Would you say that I was lost/heretic when I first accepted Jesus if I did not have all my theological understandings 100% correct? Would you say that those that have never had the opportunity to learn about Jesus but have lived up to all that has been impressed by the Holy Spirit through nature are lost/heretics when they die? Job 12:7-9 Even the Jews in the old testament took years to start getting right their theology. Even when Jesus came they still did not fully understand what the scriptures said. The Jews who rejected the first time into the promised land over a certain age died in the wilderness. Were they all lost/heretics that died in the wilderness? Or were they given time to understand their mistakes. In Exodus 32 Aaron 32:4 made a golden calf. His understanding of God was not all that solid at that time. Yet God in His mercy let him stay alive and made him High Priest. In Exodus 35 garments were made for Aaron as High Priest even though he had made an idol for the people. Should he have been called a heretic and killed by the Levites in chapter 32 of Exodus. In chapter 40 Aaron was anointed High Priest. Where does the Bible say Aaron repented? Yet God let him become High Priest and lead the people in worship and teach them the ways of God. The Bible says we have all fallen short. I know I have and I choose to speak of Jesus and His love and grace to me and all humanity.

dwilliams
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It's laughable that you use comments from the early pioneers of SDAdventism to try and prove points before they receive further light and correction. Myles, bro, the idiocracy astounds me. JN Andrews later retracted those as well, guess you won't share those quotes though huh?

TheFaithofJesus-bkwl
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“It will also be noticed that this ‘league’ [The International Sunday Observance League] has other plans besides the intention to prosecute those who will not bow to their man-made Sabbath. Perhaps they will prosecute those who do not believe in the Trinity.” (Review and Herald, Nov.20, 1894, Vol.71, No.46, p.730 – SOURCE)”

— Review and Herald, Nov.20, 1894, Vol.71, No.46, p.730

mille
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At 1:10 min you said trinity was not established at Nicea. I just did a google search of Council of Nicea 325 and this is the non-SDA response that came up...which agrees with Andrews initial quote you posted. History says this..."The First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD established the Trinity as three equal entities that make up one divine being, the Holy Trinity: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit." Christians do not believe in the catholic trinity of three in one. We believe in the Godhead of three equal but separate beings united in one purpose. Andrews and pioneers grew in grace and the fullness of the knowledge of Christ as they continued in prayer and bible study.

alllthatinacan
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The people’s reaction here shows me how poorly people understand the seventh Day Adventist. They are the only Christian church still respecting and keeping all ten of the Ten Commandments as God wrote them with His own finger. Psalms 111 : 7, 8, 10. And since the Bible describes sin as the transgression of God’s law, 1 John 3 : 4, 5, 6, 8. and says that they are in bed with the fool, the devil One could see that people are actually seeking to justify sin. I personally choose to keep and follow all ten of God’s commandments as He wrote them. And not how Rome rewrote and changed them to their advantage. There are three of the ten Commandments Rome change to fit their faith.

fournierro
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SDAism is vastly confusing. I can't keep up 😮‍💨

kimartist
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The Two Powers in Heaven by Alan F. Segal: established via how God was viewed by Jews prior to Christianity.

sjg
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Bravo, go on to revil the true facts!! Is more and more important!!

williamhartweg
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The Adventists are saying that the Sunday law will be fulfilled with the project 2025. Could you make a video on this subject? Thank you so very much.

ceisa-vivendonostemposfina
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You are the most confused person I ever heard!!

marcosrodriguez
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I love the accuracy of God’s word. Revelation 12 : 17 tells us clearly who Satan will make war against at the very last days. And in Revelation 14 : 12 tells how those who stay faithful to God will react. If God’s word described sin as the TRANSGRESSION of God’s law. Those who contend against those who keep God’s ten commandment laws are seeking to find a way to justify sin.

fournierro
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“GOD IS THE FATHER OF CHRIST; CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD. To Christ has been GIVEN an exalted position. He has been MADE equal with the Father. All the counsels of God are opened to His Son.” {CCh 76.5}

Philippians 2:6
[6]Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

mille
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The eternal God is the Father of Jesus Christ. The Bible teaches in John 3:16 and Hebrews 1:4-5, that Christ is the literal Son of God.

Christ speaks of His Sonship as literal:

John 16:27  For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I CAME OUT from God. 
John 16:28  I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father. 
John 16:29  His disciples said unto him, Lo, now speakest thou PLAINLY, and speakest no proverb. 

To believe in the Trinity one must believe that Christ's sonship is metaphorical.

What does the Bible say concerning Christ not truly being the Son of God:

1Jn_2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

If to be a Christian is to be a follower Christ and His teachings, then you can't be a Christian and accept the triune god of antichrist.

LatterRainMessage
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Perhaps you should have given the rest of the quote "‘‘And as to the Son of God, he could be excluded also, for he had God for His Father, and did, at some point in the eternity of the past, have beginning of days. So that if we use Paul’s language in an absolute sense, it would be impossible to find but one being in the universe, and that is God the Father, who is without father, or mother, or descent, or beginning of days, or end of life. YET PROBABLY NO ONE FOR A MOMENT CONTENDS THAT MELCHIZEDEK WAS GOD THE FATHER.’’ - J.N. Andrews, Review & Herald, September 7, 1869"

billhendricks
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Jesus Christ ✝️ is the ETERNAL and the Preexistent Son of God. The Angel of the Lord is the Pre Incarnate Christ in the Old Testament.

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