Two Christians Debate Trump vs Kamala

In this episode of "The Deep End," I sit down with political strategist Justin Giboney and Atlanta city council member Cory Ruth to discuss the upcoming presidential election. We unpack why it’s crucial for Christians to get involved in the voting process and explore the real challenges we face as faith-based voters. We touch on tough topics like abortion, the January 6th incident, candidate character, and how polarized our political conversations have become.

So if you're ready for a real, honest discussion that pushes beyond the surface, let’s go to the Deep End!

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Chapter Markers:
0:00 - Introduction
1:07 - Today's Guests, Cory Ruth and Justin Giboney
3:28 - Why it's Important for Christians to Vote
7:01 - The Temperature of The Church at the Moment
8:15 - Why Evangelical and Republican Go Hand in Hand
12:50 - Political Affiliation, Culture, and Faith
20:08 - Politics, Principles, and Religion
22:33 - Essential Qualities in Political Leaders
25:31 - Being a (Black) Christian and a Democrat, A (Black) Christian and a Republican
35:22 - Being Conservative and Wanting Change, Bringing Race into Question
41:58 - How To Go About Making the Right Decision
47:18 - Fighting Through the Fog of Propaganda
51:13 - Chaos vs. Civility
54:34 - Who Benefits in the Culture War?
1:01:10 - Critiquing Kamala Harris
1:08:25 - Critiquing Trump
1:23:45 - Addressing the Casualties and Criticism
1:30:57 - Right vs. Wrong: It's Not That Clean-Cut
1:35:04 - Why Christians Should Participate in Politics
1:40:12 - Vote Policies, Not People?
1:43:04 - Corrupt Politics and Christian Involvement
1:44:28 - Final Thoughts and Conclusion

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[LecraeOfficial]

How are we feeling about the election this year?

[BeardedDadFishing]

This is the most insightful and respectful discourse I’ve seen in the longest time. Thank you for this! And thank you for choosing two extremely capable, intelligent and articulate black men from both sides to lead this conversation 💪🏽

[GummyVites]

Thank you so much Lecrae for having this forum. This was absolutely one of the most honest and thoughtful discussions from a Christian perspective that I’ve ever seen. If we as Christians think that the devil won’t corrupt or attack us from both sides, then we truly don’t know our adversary. We must continue to keep our eyes on Jesus Christ and pray for the unity of the body of Christ. If we take on the incivility and character of the world, how can we continue to be salt and light.

[KayLg]

Circled back to this before Trump has made his first 60 days in office, I would love to hear the perspectives now. Especially with Trump erecting a golden statue of himself in Gaza. I also think how can you call yourself a christian and a republican considering the current state of the country.

[themjfbrand]

This is one of the best, mature, respectful and balanced interviews on this topic I have watched! Kudos to these two amazing men.

[richardaustin]

CHRISTIAN POSITION SHOULD BE ABOUT THR GREATER GOOD.

[alexbustos]

KAMALA SAID YOU’RE AT THE WRONG RALLEY TO SOMEONE WHO SAID JESUS IS LORD… THAT’S ALL I NEED TO KNOW

[Jellybean]

I was a Catholic lifelong Dem but voting Green for the 1st time for Stein/Ware. NoMoreWar💚✊🏼

[rr]

I pray that everyone gets what they deserve based on how they voted or didn’t vote. 🙏🏾 God is in control👍🏾

[iragalaktionova]

Awesome debate! Christian Democrat here!! Love to see more of us come forward. Thankfully I live in PA so I have others around me but man I feel so so much for Dems in red states.

[jeanetteschnell]

I am so impressed by this podcast. I have been listening and listening to so much information and these guys are the best. Kudos to you Lecrae. May God bless all of you and our country. I’m 66 years old on Social Security. I have eight children, six adopted out of foster care. I’m currently raising my five-year-old autistic grandson who scheduled to go back home to his fatheron 21 December. If I did not have Jesus Christ in my life to be my peace, I would have so much strife in my heart. I have so many friends with so much strife in their hearts because of this election. Christ is King!!

[CarlaAdams-oo]

These guys are brilliant and doing an excellent job of addressing the nuance in both parties.

[zakirawilliams]

I reallyyyy want a part 2 of this. I would love a dialogue that heavily focused on how these two very educated men feel about our institutions rn. I would have also liked more pointed and clear criticisms of Trump. I think Harris’ critiques were done well. We did not get enough of her.

[alvinjohnson]

Faith has been shaken! Faith is a FREE choice not a law!!

[jadude]

Lecrae, can we do a follow up to this??

[GraceAbove]

We are sinners choosing between 2 sinners. I want more than anything for people to choose from the heart. This is America and we shouldn’t bash others for their decisions which comes from a finite mind of understanding.

[itisme]

It also seems like democratic rule tends to come for the freedoms of the church…

[micahhaney]

The way to change a party is actually to move away from it.

[lavadacartwright]

Love the debate between democrats and republican Christian.
I was a democrat when I was young. Now I'm that I am older I lean towards republican policies. They are the economy, immigration, free speech.

[faithmatthews]

As a Christian I feel it's not about imposing my Christiàn beliefs on others. God gives us choice. Yes we can create laws to control people but ultimately morality can't be legislated. God wants us to do the right thing because we love God, not because of some laws forced on us.