DON'T Fall for These EV Battery MYTHS!

More truck owners mention EV batteries as their biggest turn-off when considering an ev truck.
Battery life. Range anxiety. Then there’s the cold, along with towing and hauling range loss. How about fire risk? And let’s not forget about all that press on ev battery replacement costs. Are these concerns real, or created by an industry trying to scare people out of it losing its status-quo money flow?
We’re going to deep-dive into all five key worries - plus bonus insight into one of the most misleading & common narratives out there!

Sources used in this video:
Motortrend Tesla battery lifespan:
Auto Recycling World average gas vehicle lifespan:
Auto Evolution on Stanford Study:
GeoTab Research on EV lifespan and temperate climate data:
Fairfax County, Virginia, Ev fire risk:
Realtruck ICE truck range:
Inside EVS range loss in winter:
Kelley Blue Book ev truck hauling range loss:
Jalopnik article on hybrid fires:
Engineering Explained - The Problem with Hybrids:

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[truckedupevs]

CORRECTION: As always, I strive to provide comprehensive and factually back-checked data for all my videos, but due to the explosion in evs in China, the actual use of cobalt has switched from portables devices being #1 to evs being #1. Here's the breakdown. According to Statista, EVs are now at 43%, portable devices at 28%, super alloys at 9% and hard metals at 4%. However, it is important to note that cobalt use in battery chemistry is in significant decline, so I expect that number to reverse again.
The claims made by some that oil & gas use the most as a catalyst for desulfur process is an old piece of misinformation that confused cobalt's use amount to continuous use (it is reused) and has continued to float around as fact out there, so I thought I would address that too (not that I like defending O&G). The actual global use of cobalt as a catalyst is less than 3%. Everything else comes under 'other'.
What are your thoughts on EV batteries? Do have a concern or experience you can share. Let me know!

[loriw]

I’ve had my 2023 Lightening XLT for almost a year now. I’m 63 and have owned many, many trucks. My Lightening is by far, my favorite truck.

[joecushman]

For a future issue you should address is that it takes 6000 watts of electricity to refine one gallon of gasoline. A good EV could travel one mile on 200 watts and a EV truck about 300 watts per mile. So for the same energy it took to refine that gallon of gasoline you could have driven a EV truck 20 miles. And they say our electrical grid will crash if everyone drove an EV, well if they stop refining gas there will be an abundance of capacity.

[johnkelly]

I took the plunge, bought a Lightning, and couldn't be happier. The public charging part takes a bit of learning. Thankfully, my home charging should be installed any day now.

[iroc]

My 1st Toyota Prius a 2001 went 186, 000 miles on the original battery. My wife's 2011 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid is still going at 189, 000 miles. My 2018 Chevy Volt Hybrid was just traded in at 85, 000 miles for a 2023 Ford F 150 Lightning. This is without a doubt the best truck I've ever owned. Until you have driven an EV you don't know what you are missing. And in my 60 years I have had some pretty cool cars. 67 El Camino, 70 1/2 Camaro Z28, 72 Monte Carlo just to name a few. I am also a mechanic for the last 44 years. Love the fact that this truck has very limited maintenance! All the FUD out there on these Ev's is laughable!

[sesmeltz]

Here’s my Sierra EV battery story: In the summer, I got 375 miles from an 80% charge. Now that it’s in the mid 20’s Fahrenheit, I get 368 miles. I’m terrified that if it gets any colder I’ll only be able to drive for six hours straight without stopping.

Ok ok, I know it would be worse in most other places in North America. There, I might be limited to four hours of driving. I still maintain that’s double what my bladder can do so it doesn’t matter.

[jamescriss]

I can't help but crack a smile every time I pass a gas station in my Lightning Flash. Just got my January electric bill, It cost me $21 US to drive my truck around town last month. That's even considering winter in Alaska. I was spending at least $50 a week on gas in my now garaged ICE vehicle. I love your video as always Simon.

[jamesoldman]

On another youtube channel TFL trucks have done numerous test on the fuel consumption pulling trailers. None are great. Can't remember the figures but I doubt you will find any doing over 10 - 12 mpg. Lots are in the 8mpg rating.
Then you have those that bring up the weight issue and road damage they are doing. Yet those same people have no problem driving a 3/4 or 1 Ton crew cab with a diesel motor as a everyday driver. Not that much difference in curb weight between an EV. And if they are really concerned if your using a pickup or large SUV as a daily driver look at the damage you are doing to the road compared if you were driving a standard car or station wagon. Lighter, more environmentally friendly than that pickup.

[RateMyEVdotcom]

I think my Aha moment came after watching diesel and gas engines growing in complexity and cost to push efficiency and reduce tailpipe emissions. The addition of direct injection, turbo chargers, hybrid systems, VVT, DPF and DEF systems, etc.. have all helped with efficiency of an ICE, however, they will never match the electric motor. These improvements have pushed the costs of purchase and ownership, (complexity, frequency and cost of repairs)needlessly higher when battery and EV technology is continually improving and costing less.

[BenBloodworth]

My 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee that I sold to my dad a few years ago just had the radiator and water pump fail. $2500. The anti-EV crowd always seems to forget about all the extra systems ICE cars have that will 100% fail between 75-150K miles.

[jimbo]

One of the best videos on the EV battery FUD out there. Thank you for keeping it real

[ScrappyDoodad]

With regards to EV battery price people are not taking into account the fact that OEMs always charge outrageous prices for their replacement parts, repairs, and maintenance

Aftermarket EV battery shops are popping up and as he said the whole battery never goes bad

It's usually a module, which it's self never goes all bad

It's a few individual cells or a PC board

[davidcottrell]

Thank you! Consider yourself subscribed. A few comments on the forum for my EV lately about battery life concerns, so I've shared this, even though we drive passenger cars. Couple of points - the biggest issue about EV truck range loss seems to be aerodynamics. Tow something shaped like a brick and surprise, range plummets for most trucks. The other part of that equation is speed. The faster you go, the greater the range loss. How many videos are there out there of people 'testing' EVs at 70-90+mph and complaining the range is nothing like EPA? Then they go on to complain about how slow the vehicle charges, forgetting that most of us owners charge at home at the end of the day, and are happy that we aren't overheating the battery when on a fast charge just to shave a few minutes off our charge time. Sort of important when it's your car rather than the manufacturer's. Perhaps part of the issue with misinformation is well-meaning influencers who spread some of the tropes about EV charging without meaning to, focusing on charging stops and short charges rather than do what most EV owners do - taking your time and enjoying the trip, stops and all. Why am I looking at an EV truck site? Because I would love to get an EV pickup and small travel trailer. We spent as much money on refuelling my wife's ageing VW camper on a 2 week trip as I do charging my car for a year, not counting the repairs that never stop.

[noshooz]

EVERYONE with ANY reservations about buying an EV MUST watch this video! My wife recently bought a Mustang Mach-E and we love having a "filling station" in our garage!

[darwinskeeper]

I honestly don't see the point of comparing EV range to ICE range. The reason why I'm inclined to consider range when buying an EV is because electric vehicles are still a new thing, and the fast charging network is still getting set up. My understanding is that when most people plan a road trip with an EV, they have to plan around existing fast charging stations. When I plan a road trip with my ICE car, I don't even think about where the gas stations are. A little extra planning for road trips isn't the end of the world, particularly as I only take a few road trips a year, and will be able to charge my future EV at home most of the time. I'm just noting that there is no real reason to think about ICE range.

[MickMcGuire]

I have a 2024 Rivian truck with the standard plus battery. My battery story is zilch, i dont even think about it. Although on a recent trip my truck beat the epa range numbers which was a nice change from Tesla 😂

[hieyeque]

2023 Model 3 RWD owner here (LFP). 24, 860 miles. Range has not been an issue. it's taken me almost a year to get rid of range anxiety, I finally realized, I'm worrying about nothing. On average the car leave the house with more range than most ICE vehicles.
On the road, it doesn't go as far as ICE, but typically the car is charged enough to continue the trip before you are. I tried to go to the restroom while the car was charging, before I left the bathroom the app told me the car was ready to continue the trip.
Another fun fact. Every single day there are several new EV charger stations coming online (that's not an exaggeration). Every day we talk about range and charging, the issue is already less true.

[simplygregsterev]

Im an auto tech, I just did a State of Health test on a 2023 Ioniq 5 rideshare car with 69000 km. 72 DC charge sessions and 64 AC Charge. SOH was 98%..

Yea shit happens with EV batteries sometimes, it’s a mass produced product. But shit also happens with engines, turbochargers, gearboxes.

[johnmclellancontractinginc]

I have bought my second Lightening 7 months ago for the fleet. I run a Contracting company and own 18 trailers; towable by the Ford Lightening. Our EV’s tow every week. We have the standard range batteries & charge over night at home. There is never a need to publicly charge. We will slowly replace all of our diesel Fords with EV Fords. Cannot wait for them to release the 1 tonne F350 EV.

[daveturner]

Ok, I’m 70 now and My Range is 200 miles for liquid purposes and about 300 for solid food. Decades ago I realized that busting my butt to get to a vacation is the definition of bonkers. Instead, we plan charging stops near desirable food locations and thus spend almost no time getting fuel. The funniest thing is how quickly “range anxiety” can become what I call “free range anxiety” when EV newcomers discover free charging. In my Area Code and the next, a total of 580 of 920 chargers are free.

Redwood is having problems because batteries are lasting a lot longer than expected.