PS5 and Xbox are OBSOLETE already

What's next for PS5 and Xbox?

Produced by Kinsey

Chapter Titles
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0:00 Hello and Welcome
0:32 PS5 Pro Specs LEAKED
1:19 These days are different…
2:10 Squarespace
3:05 PS5 is overrated
4:09 30fps is disappointing
5:03 Upscaling is GOOD
6:05 PS5 Pro prices
7:03 Stonks must go UP
8:01 Console wars are OVER
9:13 What is Microsoft’s plan?
10:13 Maybe time for Xbox 2?
11:15 Maybe no new console generations?
12:09 Xbox controller is WORSE
13:09 Perceptions
14:00 Xbox Series S needs to go
15:09 Prices are problems
16:03 What do you think?

[homermorisson]

Mat is right, he just didn't explain it properly: If you want the "pretty mode", which indeed is what we are being sold and shown in trailers, THEN games only run at 30-ish FPS... it's only when you disable all the fancy visuals that you get beyond that FPS range.

And that's what is indeed a major downside this generation... what we gamers want is pretty **and** 60 FPS, not either/or... but the PS5 Pro won't be able to deliver on that either.
It's still going to be either highestr fidelity OR 60 FPS.

[bur]

I remember being told the ps5 generation was going to allow me to NOT have to pick between 4k and 60fps. What happened there? Why am I still picking?

[EpicHelios]

The Series X is selling for only $350 right now, so if their next model has specs similar the the X, just without the disc drive, they'd be able to sell it at $300-$350 I'd imagine. With their higher end model going for $500 again. Also. The Series S was selling pretty decent at $299. Of course, sales picked up when the price dropped, but still.

[randomizedrandomly]

Mat is correct, why should I have to choose between Pretty and Performance modes?? It should just be one default preset that delivers both..

[JoseAlba]

No console will keep up with the PC Race
" If paying doesn't mean owning.
Piracy doesn't mean stealing "

[AR-gpeu]

I bought a series S solely because it was available. I didn’t get a series x until this year because it was finally in stock locally and was on sale.

[TheInfinityMaster]

Matt, all I want is a *stable 4K 60 FPS at the highest settings WITHOUT any compromises or having to choose between "Performance Mode" and "Fidelity Mode".*
THAT is why I held-off on buying a base PS5 console and decided to wait for the eventual PS5 Pro (I'm not asking for "120 FPS", *guaranteed 4K 60 FPS Fidelity/Ultra Mode is all I want).*

[UltimatelyEverything]

The difference with this generation of consoles is last gen is still very much alive and kicking so they have two generations of consoles that are still doing their thing. I mean the PS4 Pro is still a powerful console and the games on that system still run pretty good and look pretty good and the more powerful last gen consoles aren't even that old.

[nagamon]

I can't wait to pay $700 (tax) for a pro 🤓 and pay $10 an hour to play GTA 6.

Edit: I forgot to add another $10 for online services.

[BennyWheelie]

@15:55 Matt is 100% correct, and the Switch is proof of that. I still have friends that are rocking PS4, PS4 Pro, Xbox One because they are still getting games on those platforms (for now). I usually find myself in the same mindset as Austin, and often need to "recalibrate" myself when it comes to understand the lack of importance most people place on the latest and greatest.

Yes if you're a DF viewer, you're probably going to give a shit about the experience and eye candy the latest kit will give you, but for everyone else, nope.

[technewb]

Much of the sales success for the Series S is due to the lack of availability for the Series X. I don't know anyone that wanted the Series S. They all wanted the Series X, but gave up on trying to get one and had to settle.

In terms of the next version, I would expect Microsoft to actually cut it down even further and make it more of a Game Pass gateway, and less of a standalone console.

[JerryLoffelbein]

From what I understand, the PS5 Pro will essentially help out "Pretty Mode" in games by using a bit newer architecture on the GPU side (especially with ray tracing tech). It won't really help get games FPS up much more in performance modes though because the CPU is basically the same, and the higher frame rates are often a CPU bottleneck rather than strictly a GPU bottleneck.

The APU for the PS5 Pro is doing a bit of a PC-build faux pas by not balancing the CPU and GPU power (an extreme case would be an Intel Core i3 and an RTX 4080). But because most console folks are used to (and by default for most games) 30 FPS high fidelity mode, it makes sense for them to do that.

I'm happy to be proven wrong of course, as I'm a huge fan of high FPS gaming for many genre's.

[Soraviel]

I will skip ps5 pro, because i already own a ps5. I actually think sony should pour way more resources and development into ps6 than the ps5 pro, i watch digital foundry (a lot), to be honest im a tech/gamer head

[Ninjaup]

I love Austin saying you can't watch too much digital foundry

[NinjAsylum]

4:00 the problem is we dont want ONE or the OTHER we want BOTH. We want 60+ FPS AND Pretty mode, and there is zero reason that it cant do it.

[TornApartt]

We only want 120+ fps on every game. No one cares about 4k

[draccsdromero]

4k @ 60fps was what PS5 & Xbox Series X were made & promised; that’s the argument, living on hope that “the mid-gen upgrade will solve that problem” is the thought of a sucker because the first console of that gen release was suppose to do exactly that..

[YRAT-mrjq]

I use 1080p tv so I could care less for 4k or 8k BUT I will NOT go back to 30fps... 1080p\60fps must be a minimum for all ps5 games releasing until the ps6.

Im with Matt he's realistic and Austin is... Idk

[mellowghst]

The only reason I got the Series X over the Series S is because it's my BluRay player too, if I didn't need access to a disc drive for movies then I easily would've bought the 1TB Series S

[thomascope]

Most of the games I play on series x are 4K in 120hz