Marvel's ECHO is Bad (Explored)

Back in 2023, the overlords at Marvel realized they might have messed up. The return of Disney CEO Bob Iger signalled a change in the wind, with a much-needed slowdown on the horizon. As a result, their 2024 calendar looked surprisingly light, with "Echo" and "Deadpool 3" as the only things the company would be releasing.

With all its episodes dumped onto Disney in one go, "Echo" emerged as a show that marked the dawn of the Marvel Spotlight era, a promise to bring more grounded, character-driven stories - their attempt to pivot from its 16-year legacy of intertwined, complex narratives to something a bit more... digestible for the casual viewer. But, "Echo" quickly strays from its pledged path. In less than thirty minutes, the show dives headfirst into familiar territory, with Maya Lopez and Daredevil thrown into an unremarkable brawl, and a cameo by Jeremy Renner's Hawkeye, highlighting they knew it couldn’t stand on its own legs.

The action is sub-par, the writers confuse arrogance with stoicism, characters lack defined arcs, clear motivations, and seem to float in a narrative limbo. And they’ve butchered not only the character of Maya from the comics, but also Wilson Fisk from the Daredevil Netflix series. Worst of all, the show is boring and hard to get through.

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[medalgear]

The main problem with 'Echo' is that she is NOT a superhero; she's a murderous, unrepentant villain but treated as a hero. IT's the same as they've done in WandaVision. Wanda(I still love her) held an entire town hostage and mentally tortured them for who knows how long - and the "good guys" let her get away with it.

Today I learned: Marvel Universe has flying aircraft carriers, aliens and shit, but no safety glass for cars.

[derisathartfelt]

The actor for Fisk sounds so sad that one of his best roles was reduced to this piece of shit

[madambutterfly]

That line in Rise of Skywalker still kills me and you can see the stress on Oscar’s face when he had to deliver that line

[Jantonvid]

I seriously can’t believe somebody actually wrote in the script “queen pin“

[ninjamanu]

Man poor denafrio from an intimidating, no nonsense scary character to a joke. What an insult for such a great performance

[andressalinas]

Honestly the thing that made me most upset is how they try and present Echo as a product of her life but in flash backs you can clearly see she’s a psycho since she was born, shooting a bird and lying, kicking a beaten man because he was slightly rude to her because she NEVER bothers to inform or learn to read lips but insists if YOU learn to show you care, she’s constantly endangering her family and making them do crimes how is anyone supposed to like her

[PsychoRavager]

Remember when Kingpin would actually be dedicated enough to learn new languages just to keep his empire intact when managing fellow crime bosses? I do.

Also, fantastic video!!!
My respect for you has skyrocketed even more with how you've critiqued this show with class!

[Anthony_Caliber]

Gotta love how in most cases FCE will try to have sympathy, and say “oh it’s flawed” or “it’s a failure” but still tried to say it tried

The title here is “it’s bad”. You’ve gotta love that

[ExInfamous]

The director just straight up changed her power set?? Wow, Marvel really hires any moron with decent track record these days.

[ViciousSephiroth]

We need a meme of Wilson Fisk smashing igers head in an suv door
"YOU EMBARASSED ME!!!"

[MrYadiy]

I think the writers copied Rise of Skywalker where Rey is "all of the Jedi", Palp is "all of the Sith" when they both fight. Here, Maya's power when she beat Kingpin is like "I'm all of my ancestors".

It is stupid they didn't stick to the comics.

[wren]

I agree with you completely. I expected something more like the punisher, a violent but incredibly grounded story that completely humanizes the character on a bunch of levels. I got nothing I wanted, it felt like secret invasion in so many ways. It feels like they lied to us.. the best quote"I'd describe myself as a big fan" what a great way to convincingly say that lady, that was painful

[treavorwhitlock]

Kingpin in daredevil was such a strong/disturbing character. It's such a shame to see that pretty much wasted

[Trabunkle]

In movies and tv series there has always been the concept of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd act! The problem with todays movies and serialized shows is that they over extend the 1st act, minimize the impact of the 2nd act and reduce the 3rd act to: Look how great our heroes are, no one can stop them! That's why people feel so disconnected and bored! Add the cameos and bad writing and you have a recipe for disaster!

[damianstarks]

I feel nothing but sympathy for Vincent he deserves better

[fabianbiere]

0:11 man he can't even attempt to spin it positively. Too sad man

[ArcTrooperRod-]

They did it with Moon Knight, They did It With Echo & I have no doubts they will do it with DD
*Disney hates so much Street Level grounded Heroes & refuses to write them in that way*
That's why they keep adding so awful powers the characters didn't have in the comics

[averagesizedjoe]

I will translate for poor Vincent "they assassinated my character"

[Greyshadow_]

I’m glad they didn’t kill off Fisk at least. I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed how she endangered everyone around her and was very short sighted to see the least

[chefc]

I’m a member of the Choctaw nation of Oklahoma. I was more than disappointed in this show. There was so much missed opportunity of world building and heritage explanation in the Native American perspective. Most of all the female lead is just bad. That smug look of hers is really off putting