You NEED to Know This Norse Mythology For Elbaf!

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That dawn pun at the beginning deserved an outrageous wink.

bloodofdepanta
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This is really good. I’m definitely interested in hearing what more you have to say about this. I’m loving the connections and honestly you’re probably spot on with a lot of this stuff. A lot of people kind of fight back on the cyclical nature of the story, but it makes so much sense when you’re putting the clues together. Even the fact that Toki knew to jump forward in time. It also makes a ton of sense that Oda said the story would be over once we find the One Piece because if that’s where the cycle starts, it’s also where it would end. A lot of people undermine Oda as a writer by saying that he writes everything off-the-cuff and they lean into the instances where he said he has done that, but in reality he has had a plan all along that has been consistent from the very first issue — even if he originally hadn’t planned on Shanks getting his arm bitten off. Shanks ship from the very first issue has a Viking ship mast.
I’m also pretty sure the wolf in this story or possibly Fenrir is Garling.

doronrosstuvia
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Happy Sub-tember! As a mythology enthusiast, I appreciate these deep dives. I can’t wait to see how much Oda draws from Norse mythology for this upcoming arc. Thank you, JoyGirl!

tamadhito
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I think Prince Loki is actually Utgard Loki instead of Loki Loki.
Evidence: a false castle and a shape changing cat, as well as the story menioning contests which match up perfectly with certain strawhats and current allies
Drinking an entire ocean-Zoro
Out eating a wildfire-Luffy
Outracing thought-Lilith?
And wrestling an old woman who's the embodiment of old age-that matches Bonney perfectly

TheBigE
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You are talking about Odin losing one of his eyes for knowledge. I really like that approach. When you said you have a hunch regarding Zoros eye after listening to all that mythology talk, I was like "why didn't you think about this yet!"

Really good catch! Love that video.❤

TaintedMrth
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The cat lion in 1127 reminded me a lot of the Swedish coat of arms. It also reminded me of the Gripsholm lion, a taxidermy lion in the Swedish castle Gripsholm that due to being completely messed up became a tourist attraction.

Johury
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Much needed recap Joygirl, Much appreciated.


It feels like the video is running at 0.9x speed. Like' it's slowed down slightly and sounds more natural at 1.1x speed.. I may be imagining it though, don't mind me.

dariuslegacy
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Im not sure "Fate" and "Destiny" work in the same way some people might be expecting in One Piece. I think its very likely the concept of fate and destiny have come down to "If we keep our Will and determination alive, one fated day will come where we achieve our goal". I think its more like that then anything else. The only REAL sign of Fate and Destiny in the series so far has been the information Roger and his crew got about "in the future this fated thing will happen"(likely the return of joyboy/awakened gum gum fruit). That prediction has been proven true with Luffy and his crew so THAT is the biggest show of a predetermined thing happening. However we dont know WHY or HOW this information was obtained. But we do know this information likely came from the Ancient Kingdom and its advanced technology/knowledge. I think its possible this had less to do with FATE and more to do with a predicted future or vision of the future. I personally am holding out on this theory because the concept of fate and destiny is COMPLETELY counter to the entire point of Luffys goals to be "Free". Freedom and Predetermination are absolute opposites and ruin each other.

HerculesOfHate
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6:35 Tyr and Fenrir where friends and trusted eachother Fenrir bit down Tyrs arm due to Oden tricking Fenrir Fenrir not being dumb wanted collateral for Odens trickery

queeneternal
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Ymir wasnt chaos, Ginnugagap was an is the primordial norse chaos waiting for everything to die or go away again.

Ragnarok is sometimes scene as a cycle of death n rebirth, meaning it could have happened before/void century and again for a final time?

thewillofdreams
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with the Ear God in this chapter and Mihawk's comments about hunting rabbits also Mihawk not having a record of a birthplace makes me think he was born and spent his childhood on Elbaf as well as Lilin's homie Randolph a rabbit was given the inspiration from having came to know of Mihawk's past on Elbaf.

mathieuleader
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I love you, Joygirl! Always love seeing your pretty face and listening to your amazing discussions 🥰

mdluffy
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Norse myth scholars, assemble! Hee hee, this long anticipated “Vikki the Viking tribute” arc is going to be interesting.

AnaxErikever
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Personally I don't think Ymir was evil. some perspectives make him evil, however, he was also the reason anything even exists, including those perspectives...

oger
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To those wanting to get more into norse mythology I recommend the poetic edda specifically the translation done by Lee M Hollander.

timewarrior
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Am I the only one thinking Gulliver travels with the current stuff. Which the giant rabbit comment I'm thinking they are on a lilliputian portion of elbaf

dannyrivenbark
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Looove norse mythology, I read a whole book about its cyclical story. I look forward to more chats about it!

jo.comics
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in regards to the whatever hatched from the spotty egg I think its a callback to Romance Dawn with Balloon a panda faced bird known as a Roc

mathieuleader
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I like the ideas. Speaking of the sun goddess who said her daughter would rise and bring the new dawn. what if that Joyboy whose "child" Luffy brings the light. The last 800 years have been the "dark" and Luffy will be bringing the new dawn, even by some sort of major sacrifice

jerdtgg
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My takeaway from the video:

Joy Girl perdicts Luffy will have a daughter!

Also I think God is a title in Elbalf similar to skypea

stillatwork