Nintendo is RUINING Gaming on Emulator

Nintendo banning Yuzu has some serious consequences

Produced by Kinsey
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[KinseyFromThisIs]

those millions of TotK downloads were actually me just deleting and redownloading it forever so Nintendo loses $70 each time

[-Brunnen-G]

Yuzu settled out of court for 2.4 million. At this point there are no worries of a precedent since a precedent requires a judge to make a ruling. Settling out of court is not a ruling, so no precedent.

[AdamGs]

Putting Yuzu behind a paywall was ballsy. And I really don't know what they expected to happen.

[BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Thinking about how Sony literally used the open source PS1 emulator built by the community for their PlayStation Classic, meanwhile Nintendo is out here ripping down emulators with no mercy.

EDIT: Also thinking about Epic Games who sponsored Clone Hero creators when Fortnite Festival came out. And Meta sponsors people who make modding guides for the Quest. If THOSE companies with not the greatest track records can do that, why does Nintendo act like this?

Nintendo and Apple act just like Disney used to pre Bob Iger (who sucks also but for different labour related reasons). It's like, no fun allowed. We can only have fun the way they approve.

[AronFromThisIs]

I put the flash frame in at 2:26 on purpose to throw off the Nintendo police from thinking we actually make good content.

[impracticalbanter]

Ultimately piracy is illegal so emulating is illegal, companies pay millions on developing games, I’m sure if matt owned Nintendo and spent x amount developing the next big game to only have people manipulating it to make it free he would not be happy

[kilbymorgan]

In Japan there is a Anti-bootlegging law that is almost 100 years old at this point. It was made so businesses could get back on their feet after WWII without competition. You can get Jailtime for giving and receiving a tattoo of a licensed character and receiving money for it; It's ridiculously strong. Nintendo owes the existence of it's company and everything it is now to this law so they are very sensitive to this and have since the dawn of their existence enforced that law or attempted to every moment they could.

[Mbros]

Chillax! Nintendo isn't ruining gaming, They had a reason why they're doing this.

Nathaniel set this about the situation, "Having a Patreon to fund an emulator for a console still on the market was a really bad idea. If you're gonna do this stuff, you do it for free" - Nathaniel bandy.

He said it on Twitter and a bunch of people are too stupid to even realize it

[fjod]

Yuzu Patreon profits raised just when the pirate copy of Zelda Tars of the Kingdom was out, that didnt escape Nintendo´s eyes and investigated further to see what was going on.

[MustacheMerlin]

I don't think settlements made out of court count as valid legal precedent. For it to be a precedent it has to be something the court came up with. A deal struck between Yuzu and Nintendo without a court's involvement can't be precedent, because then anybody could just make up any "precedent" they want. Precedent is when there was a prior decision made by the court, the idea is that the legal system should be self consistent when possible and reasonable.

[SSJ_EWGF]

The biggest problem with Nintendo's claim that they lost potentially millions of sales on Tears of the Kingdom, is that you literally cannot prove that the people who pirated it would have:

A) bought the game if they didn't,

B) _already_ bought the game and just dumped it on an emulator because again, the switch is incredibly underpowered and people want to play their games on an actual good frame rate.

Claiming emulation is crippling their business when they, along with every other game publisher and hardware developer is breaking profit after profit and announcing their most successful years in their entire company history is insane.

[LegendaryFenrir]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.
The ones who facilitate piracy more than anyone else are companies who restrict video game preservation. Like Nintendo.

[ShadowPlayer]

If this precedent is set, wouldn't that put mods for games in a legally questionable area? Because those require copy-written material to run.

[SSJ_EWGF]

Yeah no joke, if Nintendo wins this case, it sets emulation, and video game preservation back a couple of decades at least

[ChengTeoh]

In the future any machines built to play Nintendo Switch games will be discontinued and eventually the hardware will fail ... at that point all the physical games you "own" will just be paper-weights. Emulation is needed for those who want to enjoy games of the past but can no longer re-purchase the product.

[Moskyrath]

They've already settled this whole lawsuit. No more yuzu or citra. Yuzu devs did this to themselves by having the newest builds available behind a paywall before going public and for giving instructions on how to get keys and bypass DRM

[Gengchen]

Nintendo is not ruining gaming, people who played ToTK a week before release are the problem

[pnkwds]

Emotions are high, but yuzu messed up here, flew very close to the sun and got burned....

[josephcronin]

What's the difference of using their "copyrighted key" if you're already using a copy of their game, which is copyrighted material, and that's ok? I mean, I get it, but come on, they're just trying to find a loophole.... It really makes no sense that you would be able to use a copy of the game but not that.

[coreylarue]

An out-of-court settlement that is approved by a district court judge doesn’t set actual legal precedent anywhere, even in the court where the settlement was signed off on. Nintendo can and will point to it and ask that it be considered as such, but if it isn’t argued on the merits in court, and isn’t affirmed by an appellate court decision, it doesn’t serve have anything but persuasive authority that can be ignored by future courts and argued as irrelevant by future parties.