How To Never Get A Job

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[insu_na]

In a technical interview once they ask you to demo your skills you just open Jira, create an issue and plan a new sprint for next month with lots of story points and all that bullshit. Easiest way to "win"

[altrag]

Required: 5 years experience with Windows 2000.
- Actual job ad I saw in 2002.

[codewithsaj]

Today, i got an offer letter from a company for a full stack dev role. So happy 🎉

[cernsb]

In most professions it is assumed that you go to work, do your job, then leave work and stop doing your job. How many lumberjacks fell extra trees on the weekends? Software engineering manages to impart a mentality on a lot of people that they need to be learning and writing software all throughout their free time. Of course it's good for career aspirations, and having OSS contributions is great for your CV, but putting a lot of pressure on this leads to burnout. After 8 hours of programming during the day, the last thing I want to do in an evening is boot up a computer and do more programming. Basically what I'm saying is when looking for jobs, do all that you can, but outside of that, make sure you're living a life that you enjoy and can sustain happily. You don't need to give every waking hour of every day to more software development

[Jothaka]

Can't agree more to the "Try designing a course" part. I joined my current company about a year ago and noticed they still used JUnit 4 for testing.
So I took a leading and educating role about migrating our tests to JUnit 5 and I have learned a lot in the process about some "corners" of JUnit 5 I have never had in consideration before and teaching my colleagues has helped me dive even deeper in the matter.

It was also so much fun, that I consider contacting my alma mater if they are interested of me hosting some lessons.

[mohammadhassan]

During a technical interview, just conditionally iterate the print statement over all possible solutions. Make sure it’s in C so that it runs fast.

[JonathanTheZombie]

Networking has gotten me every one of my jobs. Always, always shake hands and make connections. Jobs will drop out of the sky.

[irishskier]

This shit about everyone "needs" to code in their free time in order to get a job needs to die already. Its such terrible gatekeeping mindset to have. These kind of people who spend 80 hours a week programming but never go outside are crazy imo. They can sit down and tell me about all the side projects they made in some obscure language, but ask them to sit down in front of a client and condense what they want into an understandable ask and they are like a fish out of water. Now don't get me wrong I like learning new concepts, but not because I have this anxiety that I'm not always up to date with every new fangled JS framework. Not every person sees Programming as a hobby for some people it is just a job and guess what, that's fine guys...

[sharkysharkerson]

I wouldn't say I necessarily struggle in the interviews on the technical side. The hard part for me is in the socialization as most technical interviews tend to copy the google interview model, which optimizes for the "Smart Extrovert". As an introvert by nature, that takes a lot out of me. I'm more used to solving problems in my head rather than talking it out, so the whole interview process takes me out of my most optimal form.

[lukasmolcic]

for the bubble thing, I would guess it has an "on mouse up" on the content wrapper, so when his pointer went up outside of the container it didn't get triggered

[CallousCoder]

I never ask technical question as in "write this algorithm" It doesn't prove anything, hell I admit that I haven't implemented an algorithm or std data structure myself in 20 years, I use the STL and the STDLIB. I just ask what people wrote themselves, what was challenging how they solved it. And I give them an example of a current issue we are facing. Last tech interview I did took 10 minutes from my side and I was like: "yeah, I too love this guy". I asked him one insight question that I knew he had no experience with, just to see how he would find answers -- what to Google for is more important than having that knowledge in your head. Because sooner or later, you need to do things you've never done before. So I was taken with this guy immediately. In the past we had some tech questions and especially those that I knew people couldn't answer. I want to see if they take charge. If they say: "Okay I don't know can I use a computer to google it? Or can I grab that book of the shelf and browse through it?" Then I knew they were good. When they would just walk in circles (and not even writing compilable code just pseudo code or describe the process of solving the question) then I know that either they need mentoring or perhaps isn't the right candidate.
One guy got so angry and shouted: "This is INSANE NOBODY KNOWS THIS! WHAT DOES IT PROOF?!"
And my manager calmly said: "It proves if people are willing to discuss this on a professional and friendly way, anymore questions? Otherwise I think we know enough" :D

[ahumeniy]

Usually a ton of job offers show up most of the time, EXCEPT when I'm out of a job and i'm actively looking. Guess that's my "luck"

[mage]

"No one learns more than the teacher." At least, as long as the student is learning something. I swear some teachers are diametrically opposed to learning anything.

[StevenOBrien]

Programming isn't my profession (I write music), but I've never gotten any work by "putting myself out there" and applying for jobs. My work has always come from ""networking"" (ie, old friends, people who I've worked with in the past, people who are familiar with my work).

In an interview, it doesn't matter how much prior experience or expertise I have, I've always been treated like a child, and inevitably get interviewed by some jackass (like the one who wrote the article) who thinks that they're the Gordon Ramsay of their field, and think that they've gotten successful hiring down to some magic formula. I suppose it's a personality issue on my part, but I have an extremely difficult time showing any enthusiasm or respect for people who are condescending (consciously or not), and who want to make me do pointless artificial busywork or meet some artificial arbitrary standard that has no real bearing on the actual quality of my work. My patience for it wears thinner and thinner as I get older.

However, when you're contacted about a potential job, it's always "oh yeah, Steven's cool, he's a bit eccentric, but he can work miracles, you should have seen what he did on let's take a chance and let him work on xyz and see how it goes", and it almost always goes well, because there's mutual respect there.

Which one of these situations do you think is going to go better?

[sergiocoder]

I don't agree with the advice to always learn or code outside of work. Programmers should have a life instead of sitting in front of the computer in their free time. I personally hate the cult of "constantly learning some new technologies". Technologies come and go, if you don't need it for your actual day-to-day work (which would mean you should learn it a at work BTW), it's a waste of effort as it will probably die in 5 years or sooner anyway (especially in JS world).

[kper]

If there's one thing I'd take from this video; it's teach others what you know well, generally your effort is paid back though it's best not to expect it, but you will also reinforce your own understanding. It's a great win-win.

[danielphil]

Is it weird that I'm nodding my head in acceptance to some of points made, negative as they are.

[SeriousCat]

I actually disagree about not applying for jobs and instead of waiting to be approached by a recruiter or hiring manager. I've been on close to a hundred interviews over 25 years and I've only ever had luck when I was contacted first. It seems to me when that happens the people have already decided your background might be a a good fit and they want to interview you in order to validate that assumption and to sell you on the company. While when you make the contact they are looking for reasons to eliminate you from consideration. Also, I've not once been asked to write an algorithm during an interview.

[dipanjanghosal]

So basically, sacrifice your life completely, and keep grinding to the bone 24×7 till death to get a job.

[ryangrogan]

Been on the job hunt since January. Well over 150 resumes sent out. Probably closer to 200. Out of those, I only got 1 interview. How do you make a network if you never have had the chance to network? Do I start adding random people on linked in?