Intel CPUs Are Dying and Crashing! Unstable Overclocks for 13th/14th Gen?

In this video, we delve into the ongoing stability issues surrounding Intel's 13th and 14th gen CPUs. Users have reported crashes, freezes, and lag, prompting investigation and concern. We explore potential causes, including hardware changes and motherboard defaults, and discuss solutions like enforcing Intel's stock limits. Join us as we navigate through the complexities of these advanced CPU architectures and share tips to ensure stability. If you've experienced similar issues or found solutions, let us know in the comments below! Don't forget to like, share, and subscribe for more tech content!

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[jjlw]

I think it's finally time for TechTube to teach users about the BIOS. It is the most untapped segment of information and countless users suffer because of it. So many issues could be resolved if people understood what is happening in their bios.

[saltyshanker]

I am glad that I have a 12th gen i5 in my gaming PC that I built in 2022. Been using it for 2 years now and have had no issues at all. The performance has been amazing even under heavy loads.

[Savitarax]

With how pushed to the absolute limit these chips were on 12th and 13th gen.
It’s not surprising to me.

[a]

For my 13900k and 14900k I have done the following: MCE off, PL1 and PL2 limit to 225, limit P-core boost to 5.5 GHz and E-core boost to 4.3GHz, and use balanced power profile in Windows (although I do disable core parking to keep system highly responsive). Oh and just XMP on the RAM. I didn’t change LLC value. I have set voltage offset at a modest -0.015v and set the Core limit to 300 Amps. I have disabled the C6&C7 C states and EIST. Lastly I have locked AVX at 0 offset. I have tested on P95, CB R23 and CB R15. All great and in a mid 20 degree room, no workload exceeds 80c on package or cores. Very happy and benchmarks are very close to where they were before taming these beasts.

[theviewer]

mobo manfacturers BIOS were insane going over far over power limit CPU specs

[SynthOSphere]

It’s now officially recognized by Intel… all 13th and 14th gen affected!

[dethskullcrusher]

11:39 This is the main reason why learning to overclock and overclocking properly is much more safer for components long term than leaving everything stock without knowing what da hell your motherboard is doing. This is definitely NOT the way things should be but it's been the case since i had used computers.

For example my Z370 from ASUS when enabling the XMP configured the VCCSA to 1.35v (overclockers recommend using 1.25v for daily). And this is one example, motherboards have this sort of practices. Vcore, VCCSA, VCCIN, any voltage... you name it.

And that's only half the story, i've heard many influencers saying things like "a CPU running at 100 ºC is fine", i can assure you is not, amongs overclockers the safe margin has allways been around 85ºC.

[maximilian.R]

I had crashes, blue screens, and most of these issues when bench stress testing with other applications. All started with new components, and the new I-9 CPU. Finally figured out that it was the unrealistic BIOS settings by MSI. I contacted them, and ended up in arguments with them because they would not provide the correct settings for the BIOS, for normal usage and OC usage. I was shocked. Got the system all stable and running at a good performance, after changing the voltage and the current to the CPU, and undervoltng. I say the makers of the motherboards are the problem.

[josealfredomari]

Not once but twice I’ve gotten unlucky with my i9 14900kf cpu. Blows my mind others are having the same issues I’m having. Especially the unreal engine oodle error. Crazy.

[oltorftheviking]

Not surprised. Auto voltage on mobo puts 1.45-1.5 V through these.

[kevinmccrea]

What did you think was eventually going to happen with all these forced Motherboard bios security Mitigations. I believe this is part of The problem.

[dal]

How happy i am with my Ryzen 5700X3D upgrade 1 month ago. Also upgraded my ram to 32GB. Easy

[ErockOnTech]

Hey man good video as always! Thanks for the shoutout. Yeah there are just so many variables here. PC gaming/building should not be this complex. I hope Intel can have better luck next generation with their new architecture. As for now, I'm back on AMD's AM5 and I can say that it is much better than it was a year ago. My system feels super snappy. I keep expecting to see some lag or stutter any second lol. But thankfully nothing. Phew. I'll keep you updated! Keep up the good work and so close to 20K let's

[kimjongpoontv]

if i leave my gigabyte bios on stock, i see in hw monitor when running CB23 that VCORE goes above 1.5V, temps low 90s and power draw almost 400 watts. This is after delid too. Going in and adjusting LLC and setting a fixed voltage i was able to run stock speeds at 1.27v with Turbo LLC and vcore stays pegged at that in hwmonitor. So these chips are being massively overvolted by motherboard manufacturers. Another thing to do if you dont want to run a fixed vcore you can set PL1 to 125 and PL2 to 253 watts. Dont need to adjust current limit as itll never hit 307A at stock. Also throw on a -0.075mv undervolt and its rock stable. Max temps in CB now low 70s too with a 360mm aio.

[MrDC]

Damn Danny, I didn't know how much I needed this video. I've been chasing problems with with 13700 z790 DD5-7200 4090 system forever. Thanks for the great insight

[AlejandroJorqueraZ]

I kept my AM4 mobo and got a 5700X just because of the 65W TDP of that CPU. I try to run my system as efficient as possible. Even though i recommended my wife a laptop with a 12600H because i know that CPU is great. I don't know why intel pushed their high end cpu's so far, having really good gems in the current i5 series.

[NewTechGuatemala]

I have i9 14th you just have to adjust some bios options to work perfectly

[ashryver]

If the pc is at defaults... crashing during such things like heavy DX12 shader compilation, out of video memory etc.. all of the bsod's i see people post are clock watchdogs or whea errors... under such situation, this is literally all just due to 100c utilization because the stock cpus/motherboards are running out with ridiculous auto AC_LL values and vcore during load aka heat induced bsod's...

[anjelomichelangelo]

after 4 months later my I9 13900k became unstable, crashing from games and after effect renders and later i solved it by changing my asus proart z790 motherboard power settings close to intel power settings and now it is stable:
pl1 253w
pl2 253w
340amps

[half_r_mk]

So far I don't have this issue on my setup. I just set my PL1=PL2 to 253W and ICC=307A, Enhanced Turbo=Auto and the rest is custom fan setup curve. I have an MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk MAX WIFI7 with i9-14900K. Immediately after I finished my build I set my PL1 & PL2 to the Intel power specs and had not had any issues. Running God of War 2018 and finished the entire game with no hickups. If you set the PL1 and PL2 to the default BIOS setting which is an overkill setup, yea the PC will crash and immediately causes the BSOD or sometimes lag and memory error issues. You can set PL1=125w and PL2=253W however this will definitely reduce the performance of the CPU, so you can set it to 253W on both PL1 and PL2 and ICC=307A to run stable.

Here's my settings:
E-Core Turbo Ratio offset = +1
CPU Ratio Offset when Running AVX = -3
CPU Lite Load = Mode 1 (located in Advance CPU Configuration Settings)
CPU Loadline Calibration Control = 5 (located in DigitALL Power Settings)
CPU Core Voltage offset = 0.100
PL1 = 253W
Duration=56s
PL2 = 253W
ICC = 307A

Hope it helps anyone out there with the same MOBO and CPU. My RAM is a Corsair DDR5 RAM with 7200Mhz. So everything far runs stable. Ran OCCT for stability for 1 hour passed, with Cinebench Multi-core score is 39200, and Single Core of 2k+

I did ran LatencyReport as well and did not return any major issues.