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Brozime & MHBlacky Mesa build critique.

Warframe Mesa Status. Emerald/Green shard vs Steel Path / Netracells.

[Norrschein]

IMPORTANT CORRECTION at 4:22 thanks to kranqi7496's comment below (I am unable to pin comments cause I don't wanna give my real life ID to YouTube lol):
"Acolytes are hard capped to 4 on corrosive, the green shards do actually break this cap, however you would need + 10 total to full strip them so the point is moot"
This means you would need 5 normal green shards to even be able to strip an acolyte.

[HaydenDoodles]

Well said and hopefully no one takes this the wrong way as its something that does need to be talked about, keep up the good work!

[accountname]

the reason the acolyte in mhblacky's video only died with 4 stacks is because you can *only* apply 4 stacks to them, they are status resistant

[zegotinha]

Brozime makes very clear that his mesa build is a major resource hog and should not be attempted unless you dont care about burning resources.

[NovaUmbral]

This is exactly why I don't showcase builds and just talk about what the frame does so people can take that knowledge and do what they want.
PS I'm just trash at building, lol.

[sajinkahnalt]

Warframe’s creator space needs voices like yours. Excellent work.

[Wiredchickensgaming]

While I do agree with what you're saying, I want to defend Brozime a little bit as in his video he does explicitly state multiple times that it's a highly unrealistic build and goes into depth about how it literally kills every single enemy in the game barring a few unspawnable bosses without the shards.

[kranqi]

Just to note - acolytes are hard capped to 4 on corrosive, the green shards do actually break this cap, however you would need + 10 total to full strip them so the point is moot, just an observation - also I wouldn't be so quick to discount a crit mod because you can get it from "other sources" - whether or not you build into crit very specifically depends on what breakpoints you are trying to hit. Explaining how this math works is much better in my opinion then saying to mod for more damage, as getting addional crit tiers is an absolutely massive damage jump and pure oranges with 18-55% chance at reds is easily achievable with orange shards and ceramic dagger/secondary outburst - no adarza needed unless you want 100% reds about 50% of the time. One last thing is between nexus/equilibrium - I really think this comes down to mission type so I gave two loadouts that are identical with this being the only swap

[BamaMophi]

So, I believe a lot of the points in the video are fair statements to be made in a generalized sense. However in a few cases brought up, there are a couple issues that aren’t quite as specific as he makes it sound.
Firstly, the level cap thing *used* to be unrealistic. It used to be to find a level of enemies of any value would take hours of play in a single continuous mission that is unrealistic to the general player base at large. However, we now have content (specifically steel path Duviri) where you can have the average Joe Schmoe going 20 minutes into a run and finding those levels of enemies where lacking adequate preparation as such becomes a problem. Yes, it currently stands as only one part of Warframe, but it is a part that rewards players with the greater incarnon system and worthwhile arcanes that a large amount of players will be actively hunting for. So having a build ready for that content will make the general crowd ready for it is helpful to the community. Especially if this is a look into possibly having more of this type of content in the future with equally rewarding loot. It is still technically more specific than the rest of the gameplay, but it is not a rare or even uncommon occurrence for a player to want to go into these modes because the resources obtained from them are that good and enticing to all forms of players. A lot of returning players came back from years long hiatus just for that content.
Secondly, I agree that general content creators have to be very careful in warning players about how hefty the resource sink is for these builds and the level of necessity that each one entails. I just disagree with the example content creators (specifically Brozime because I don’t know about the other one mentioned) used for the video. Brozime is very meticulous and specific about informing players that a lot of the builds he makes on each video are not necessary for by in large a lot of the game and most are overkill. Hell mention that some of the enemies he tests these builds are will be the toughest non boss enemies to kill and that they don’t currently exist in the game at all in that state. He’s constantly replaying the entire game in free to playthroughs so that he can keep himself abreast of the current situation for new and returning players so he knows what will be worth their time to farm and build. The Kengineer and AZNvasion also are in this vein, to list a couple of examples of content creators not mentioned in the video who also make a point to call out their own builds when they are not necessary or even important to achieve for most situations or the average player and you’re better off spending your time doing anything else.
I’m not trying to diminish any of the points brought up in the video, but just informing that some of these unrealistic measures aren’t as unrealistic anymore (although they do retain some level of specificity) and that the specific creators mentioned are not really exemplary of the issues stated (for anyone unfamiliar of them who might end up avoiding their helpful content because of this video)

[zunlise]

the biggest sign that content creators are dumb as brick for me was when I saw all of them jump on the "secondary outburst + melee crescendo on Mesa". I am not spending half the mission on finishers when I can just roll in with 9x initial combo. What a joke.

[danielnolan]

If you want to farm vosfar for arcanes from sp void cascade, you will eventually fight +1k level thrax after only an hour. Void cascade is a meta "loot cave" atm

[timmydast]

screw the green shards add parkour velocity!!!!

[deejayf]

Can't wait for that Mesa build. She my fave but I am definitely that Schmuck that only has like 3 archon shards thus far and don't know what mods/Arcanes/shards are required in order to comfortably do steel path missions because I just build what I see online.

So, seeing someone who might go in depth about it would be nice!

[KaimaiTinsnake]

Lately come to realize youtubers builds are utter dogsh*t with more holes than swiss cheese.
When you point out any contradictions or things they missed they'll either ignore the comment or reply with some generic 'thx for comment but actually' excuses and damage control.
Ninjase is the only one I trust for my purposes which is mostly Circuit long run/levelcap builds to make it less painful each week.
Other than that, a lot of the big names seem like they fell off for me, trying to shill suboptimal highly convoluted solutions to simple problems, some never showing their build outside the sim for a good reason.

[coldfries]

Brozime is known for doing overkill builds on Mess just for the funsies.
He even stated that several times in his latest video.
If people take these videos in a way they are not intended to be used, i don't see why you would put the blast on the build itself.

[FluffieMichi]

This is the first person I’ve seen use Mesa’s Waltz properly with rolling

[saltberserkersaltzerker]

brozime in his video says his build is halrious overkill his other mesa build refreshs are for casual play the build in the video was literally about maxing out mesa to her full potential

[Jdude]

I really like this practical approach to building frames, using synergies that work consistently rather than theoretically or using an exploit or bug that’s definitely going to get patched - funny enough, Excalibur using archon continuity and a toxin chromatic blade is a LOT better compared to mesa at stripping armor (edit: using green shards, I mean)

[agrape]

I feel like youtubers really just follow the most complicated path possible with their builds and its very frustrating when i just want a primer on what to build for

[Kratoslover]

As someone who loves brozimes videos and I think he makes good content however you have some great points in this video. There’s nothing wrong with some constructive criticism:)