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[alexgillen]

Story 2: The party members are being aholes here. Sure, he killed an npc, but he tried countless times to repent, even offering to adopt one of the kids he orphaned. Ranger has every right to be peeved and feel personally attacked

[mallieposkas]

Ranger should come back as the second rat kid, who is not only not attached to the party, but resentful of the favoritism shown to first fat kid, and then they have to deal with 2RK finding out they let their surrogate ranger die.

[Jaeger_Bishop]

Second Story: Yeah, this is just players being spiteful, the Ranger player has every right to feel personally attacked.

[Maninawig]

Second story brought up a question:
Say you misread the room and made a decision that turned out against what the party wanted, is it OK to call a time out, clarify the situation, and possibly take back the offending decision?

[EelcoPeterzen]

I feel bad for the ranger. That party was terrible, singling out one player because of one mistake. And then all these "good" characters raise one child, but neglect the other. So good... And if ranger tries to make amends by concerning themselves over the other child, the rest of the party decides to ruin those chances, for both ranger and that child, by telling the kid that ranger killed their dad. A-holes.
I've been in a few groups like that. People feeling uber cool because they play a character. And it's always the same excuse: it's just a game, bro! You shouldn't take it personal, bro! If you do, maybe this is not the game for you, bro! And you, trying to fit in, trying to stay in the game that you love, trying to work it out, tell yourself that you're okay with that, that it is indeed just a game and them taking away all of your enjoyment is just part of the game, which you love, so you must love this as well. And bit by bit the abuse grows.
That ranger player has every right to be angry. And that monk player should pop his own zits and grow the F up. Skid mark.

Also, wife was my favourite. ;-)

[Toaster_Weevil]

That second story was just so freaking petty

[keithomilak]

Real life rage, gotta take shirt off to let them know you're serious. Aint no real fight if your shirt is left on. My dude was in character 100%

[Juju]

Second Story : For me, Ranger may had been a bit bad, but the whole party were shuch AHs. They all stated each session "My character hate your character", but once he was dead, they revealed their true feeling : "WE, the players, hated your character".

It's clear as day they waited for any opportunity for the Ranger to fumble so hard he died. They waited a specific instance where he would be alone and when not healing him would be justifiable, so that when ranger inevitably dies, they could pull a fast one on their player and not revivify him.

If you didn't like the character, and refuse to cooperate with him forward after the Rat Dad incident, talk to the player and try to find a solution. Because by the end of the day, you just pulled a "It's what my character would do" to justify an OOC feeling.

Also : I don't believe in OP's saint attitude about being neutral. I think he was as much of a jerk as the others but since he's the narrator, he tries to justify himself to have better conscious.

[MemoristCed]

Straight up: If your party can't get along with one of the characters and you're not going to give him a chance at redemption, LET HIM REROLL. There is no point in doing what they did. This kind of negativity wouldn't fly in the real world, so absent any plot-related elements (like a geas or personal vendetta or something), it wouldn't fly in a constant life-or-death situation.

Let him reroll, make his character an NPC if he's willing (even a competitor perhaps), and move on.

[axis]

Yeah, that whole Ranger hate story had me annoyed by the sheer lack of communication by everyone outside the game. This whole issue could have been avoided and a more fun story scenario could have been made if the players involved, especially the DM, had tried to talk out of the game and figure out a plan together so that there’s much to be enjoyed from the game.

[olivender]

The fact that the party still didn’t revive the ranger after he spared the monk is just crazy to me

[j.rinker]

If you are actually a neutral good character, and most lawful good except perhaps a paladin, I think failing to forgive a repenting character violates your alignment.

[henrywilson]

I heard the DM side of the first one. Conan the Barbarian themed scenario. All Barbarians, all chaos.

[leonfire]

The party should definitely have become neutral at least for how they treated the ranger. The ranger acted good and the party acted neutral or evil by deeming him irredeemable.

[ZandarDrake]

That last one hurt, I feel bad for the Ranger getting shat on by the party for ONE mistake, possibly 2 with the explosive arrow, but still.

I played a Tortle Barbarian/Artificer that was essentially the "Party's Grandfather", but the party HATED any attempt to try and guide or direct them cause they took it as my character "ordering them around".

It had gotten to the point where I tried making any suggestions, or I'd roll a Knowledge Check, succeed, and try to offer a plan with said information, but the party wanted nothing of it and would just do whatever they wanted. To which usually almost landing them TPKed. I pretty much stopped engaging with the group and let them do whatever, and they would get themselves nearly killed every time as they get pissy at me for doing nothing.

It lead to having a freaking "intervention" where I was the focus as the "problem". Though through the talks, I was able to get them to see my side, and I found ways to improve. The game sadly didnt continue and we all started a new campaign

[GDPlays]

11:35 The “we love playing with you, but we just hate the ranger” really makes me mad because they are saying that they like playing with a player that they literally bullied into being a character who is only there to try to be better and redeem from past mistakes but then the party just decides that he is irredeemable even though they literally got revived by him constantly and literally neglected a child whose father was just killed and when the ranger decides to actually help the neglected child, the party literally just says no and prevents him from doing so. If you liked playing with the player so much, then why did you literally bully his character for a grudge that could be easily let go.

[srvfan]

The first story is amazing and I love it.

The second one I feel like the Ranger made one poor decision and was never given a fair chance after that. Also, it took a minute to realize the story was referring to Zinogre and Barroth, which are from Monster Hunter, which is such a fun side detail to include in a campaign story

[harvmate]

Story 2 - honestly I kinda like the sound of the ranger, the monk sounds like the problem

[ariellaboy]

Honestly the party is asshole most of all. Ranger tried his best to help out the party and honestly players need to understand that alignments are all bullshit and don't need to be adhered to. The DM failed the most allowing this to continue after inserting the emotional punishment of single ratdad. Out of the game setting, it is the DM's job to assist with the situation with how Wife said, redemption quest! Seriously, Wife is my favorite when reading the reddit stories. 😉😆

Definitely need to check in, maintain a safe space, and allow for your character as a player to give other characters grace and opportunity to move forward.

[ZekaroGames]

That first story just makes me think of one of the campaigns I’m in where I play a chicken Bard/Sorcerer… Every time it’s my turn to talk or something, I just start making chicken noises while messaging the only person that’s meant to understand my character based on Language options XD