What is the Best Way to Hide a Balloon in Super Mario Odyssey?

Super Mario Odysseys new balloon mode, Luigi's Balloon World, was released a couple of days ago and it is a fantastic addition to Super Mario Odyssey. Finding balloons in well hidden places, and hiding balloons as fast as possible is much more fun than I imagined it to be. But this new Super Mario Odyssey game mode also raises a question that has been haunting me since I popped luigi's tutorial balloon. What is the objectively best way to hide a balloon in Super Mario Odyssey? In this video we are going to find out how to hide balloons in the best possible way in Super Mario Odyssey!

Here is the table that shows the different Super Mario Odyssey times:

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[justbubba]

I love how casually you go "oh I bought another switch"

[PengyDraws]

Ceave, you are a genius, but I think that there's actually one more element to hiding the ultimate balloon.
Confusion. If you can psyche out your opponent by using the direction against them, by running in one diresction for coins and then a different one for hiding, then that will make the coin path harder to discover.
For instance, in your wooded kingdom one, the coin coffer is in the path of your balloon. This makes it easy to discover. However, your seaside kingdom one has a more branching and not obvious path, which is why that is a better hiding place.

[rarebeeph]

The time function is linear. Specifically, one possible function which matches it perfectly is y=floor((17/14)floor(x)+3), which is just y=(17/14)x+3 where everything after the decimal points is discarded.

[keiyakins]

The reason it's rigged in the finder's favor is that they have to find a specific spot. Of COURSE that takes longer than just finding *a* spot. Sure, there's retrying, but that costs coins and kills your streak.

[Dark_Slayer]

3:45 he is a suporting and loving brother.

[MayroSMM]

That Wooded Kingdom balloon is really clever.

[vanderengland]

I think that it’s good that the attacker gets more time. This way, it requires more skill to hide it, and it’s possible to pop the best of the best without being exact

[zamooti]

y=1.2133x+2.5746
y is finding time
x is hiding time
Round up or down according to the nearest integer. (0.4 rounds down, 0.5 rounds up).
Or more exactly:
y=x+3 for 0<=x<=4
y=x+4 for 5<=x<=9
y=x+5 for 10<=x<=13
y=x+6 for 14<=x<=18
y=x+7 for 19<=x<=23
y=x+8 for 24<=x<=27
y=x+9 for 28<=x<=30+

[josiahschiewe]

Huh. I DO feel especially ten seconds or fifteen seconds as long as we didn't pick up five coins because then there are actually nine seconds today.

Guess I'd better subscribe...

[dimeandpenny]

4:40 The function is (not uniquely):

ATTACK = 3 + floor(HIDE * 1.215)

[royalgod]

But you only needed another account, not another switch

[robbie-paulbaines]

‘This game mode released a couple days ago’
‘This idea has been haunting me forever, can you hide a perfect balloon?’
Logic right there

[zibberebbiz]

I actually love the balloons where the username is Mario and the profile picture is Luigi, and the balloon is just like 8m away and you can casually walk there. Those really helped me when I was farming coins for all the outfits, there's something sympathetic about those :)

[notottomedic]

The reason that the attacker gets extra time is so that insane players like helixsnake can’t hide extremely hard balloons that require reacreating the hiders movements frame by frame.

[jasonsmith]

Hooray count: 0

Total so far: 142.5

[casperdewith]

4:28 Here’s a formula, where _t_ is the hiding time:
*(17/14) · t + 3*
Then round down to get the result. (The category 30+ is calculated as 31.) This is an approximation and highly likely not the way this has been implemented in the game. But it works!

[btoad]

I feel especially 5 seconds is now 9 seconds but coin time prevents this so its 7 seconds today, thank you.

[Lugmillord]

Took you rather long to notice that the attacker gets more time. I mean, how would you get 40 seconds otherwise? As for the advantage's existence: It's necessary for the whole mode to work. The hider already knows where to go, so if both had the same time, many players would just use speed run techniques to run away instead of really hiding the balloon. The finder are in a disadvantage by default, so they have to have some advantage.

[PotatoMcWhiskey]

Theres an even simpler formula to approximate the time. Its (the time taken to hide*1.2)+3 rounded

(x*1.2)+3

(5*1.2)+3=9
(10*1.2)+3=15
(15*1.2)+3=21
(20*1.2)+3=27
(25*1.2)+3=33
(30*1.2)+3=39

There so rounding rules going on to make imperfect on numbers that aren't a multiple of 5

Likely the scaling factor is some %between 20%and 25%, but 20% is very very close.

[Namiizan]

How did you manage to fill up 8 and a half minutes when it only took you 10 seconds to answer the question,



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