Positive Toxic

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WHY DO GIRLS LIKE TOXIC?

Because it's not toxic, dummy. When you stay at home and do nice boy things, it's not proving to her that you're strong and exciting. It's not enough to be nice and safe and peaceful. You have to make her feel like you're fighting for her every day - AND WINNING.
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"Being a bad boy doesn't mean being bad. It means being cool. It means doing bad-ass things."
...But most women don't know the difference.

ranman
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Ah, the delicate balance of being nice while simultaneously giving off gut-ripper vibes

Mystyx-Sama
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Every guy whose made the mistake of being the boring one and getting dumped, will tell you this is 100% true.

tylerd.
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This is why marriage was supposed to correct those things but with No-Fault divorce, it really means nothing but a game of high stakes poker. It should automatically say 0 alimony if you claim no-fault divorce.

mehoyminoy
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I once heard from a girl that I'm literally "too nice". At that time it was very confusing to me and we obviously didn't get into the relationship. After couple of years I've found out that... she ended up in an abusive relationship and it was pretty bad. It is bizarre how perfectly that aligned.

anj
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Toxic relationships - so that when it's over, they're automatically the innocent victim. He was a bad boy. Aww, you poor princess. Give her more than half.

Earl_E_Burd
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-Demonstrate higher value
-Demonstrate competency skills
-Demonstrate that she's not your focus (mental point of origin)

RyuHadokenMaster
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women need an system update. we aren't cave people anymore

asura
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The worst part is that those same girls will tell you repeatedly how they just want nice guys to "cuddle and watch the office with".

stopcensoringmen
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What they say they want is one thing, what they actually go for is another

darkmaice
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One of the last conversations I had with my ex was about her new boyfriend, who was a very competent MMA fighter. I listened with absolute horror as she described a recent fight in which he continued beating an opponent who was already helpless on the ground, just because the referee failed to stop the fight when he should have. The young man’s mother was in the audience, shrieking as she watched her son get mercilessly beaten, and the guy still wouldn’t stop until the referee finally stepped in. Apparently the poor fellow was so badly hurt that he never went on to fight again.

What disturbed me most about her story, however, is the giddy sort of glee she seemed to exude while telling it. It was so graphic and cruel that it made me nauseous, but she seemed turned on!

I grew up watching Disney movies and reading fairytales like everybody else, and I thought that women were mostly pure-hearted creatures who value kindness and can’t bear to witness suffering. But by that definition, I’m more of a woman than most of the actual women I’ve met. It seems many of them like the sound of crying and the sight of blood.

AdrienMelody
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"....and you have to do it without cutting anyone's guts out"

Me: *scraches off a line in my pocket book*

"....ok, back to square 1..."

vipondiu
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I'm 100% OK with dating a robot woman over a real woman at this point.

LongWalker
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"You have to do it without cutting anyone's guts out."

These standards are unreasonable.

michaelread
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It's all so tiresome. I'm not going to be a clown and participate in this circus of a dating market. At least, not anymore.

Neon-oe
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People find someone attractive and fill in what they don't know with things they hope are true. You can only pretend to see what isn't there for so long before you find yourself hating someone for being who they always were. That's why you always hear women say "He isn't the man I thought he was" even after being with that man for years. We've become so idealistic that we reject the reality staring us in the face, because it's easier to lie to ourselves than accept the truth.

You know they say ignorance is bliss, because the more truth you learn, the harder it is to be happy with it. Solomon said that in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge, increaseth sorrow. I'm brutally honest with every girl I might be interested in, and I do my best to make sure there is no misunderstanding of who I am and where I stand. It ain't won me a lot of points in life but it's saved me a lot of time, effort, and heartache down the line. Personally I worked way too damn hard to shape myself up into the man I am today, and come hell or high water I ain't gonna change for nobody.

Azaduur
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I hope that when I self-maximize I find that these “positive toxic” traits were just natural parts of myself that were repressed due to negative experiences/social conditioning rather than an act I have to put on anytime I want to attract a woman.

dubble
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I think the inherent difficulty is that women train men to be “good guys” while they like bad boys. A single mother will raise a boy essentially on a leash, and then his tamed personality does not help him get women. And when he asks women for advice, they might say to buy her flowers and whatnot, but that might also not work because they want more of a bad boy first.

rianweston-dodds
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Been a while since I've heard anyone describe masculine traits as HEALTHY.
A decade at least!

TheComiKen
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Men can we stop trying to cater to this absurdity and start calling it out for what it is
I can't imagine trying to balance all of this for a relationship
I would lose my mind

thedanielagboola