These Verses Are NOT About ELECTION and PREDESTINATION! | ROMANS 8:29-30

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The context and emphasis is absolutely key to understanding these verses!
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This is what it is. Such a simple explanation but people confuse it.
God loves everyone and he wants everyone to be saved through Jesus .

rajeevsah
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Anyone struggling with Calvinism, go outside on a fresh spring day, brace yourself, and SHAKE YOUR HEAD VIGOROUSLY!
Now, go back, to your New CLEAN CLEAR LIFE IN CHRIST😊

Zb-uobl
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Another verse to help prove the false teaching is wrong scripturally speaking is found in John 3:16. John 3:16 says whosoever believes shall not perish. That means anybody can be saved, if they believe, it doesn’t mean everyone will be saved, but it does mean that they could be if they believed.

michaelloga
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Thank you. This was a super explanation. To be able to endure anything in the world.

celitalocke
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Were you teaching from the passage you read out or you had another book in front of you?

balogunebenezer
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You kind of can’t “decalvinize” it. God knew us all before the womb. He knew who would be saved. He still sent them down. This makes sad, but Im sure there’s good reason

Angel-uu
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The title implies the verse is not about predestination. However, despite the verse clearly having the word predestinate within it, you dismiss it and proceed to double down by saying it is not about that. We are clearly in the end of days. Get this wrong as you are now and every doctrine heaped on top is on sinking sand. You HAVE TO GET THIS RIGHT or you're lost.

If he predestined all people then why aren't all people in heaven? Food for thought.

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;" 2 Timothy 4:3 KJV

RevelationOfTheMystery
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What you are arguing is destination....  
Not predestination.

In Christ, we are destined for Glory, that is so secure.
But Predestination is meaning that was our destination beforehand

caydenwhitt
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Nope. You miss the context stemming from Romans 8 and the chain of redemption!

SugoiEnglish
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This is totally about election, and God predestine those that he will save.✝

merrillbartle
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Yes, but no.
God is not a true God (sovereign) if he isn’t in charge of who’s in eternity.

chuckholt
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God is sovereign. Get rid of that luck comment.

gianardofranco
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He has already chosen BEFORE BIRTH

NO COIN OR MONEY

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LuciferEgyptianOsiris
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Aren't you going beyond what the text actually says? I think God has made scripture to be taken in its purest form and there is no need to read into it things that are not there.

teresamacey
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So since we are conformed to the image of his son, does God see his son as appose to us?

TetraResinstone
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While it is impossible to say these passages are not about predestination.
.It is I think correct to say that these passages are not about predestination as defined bt Calvinists....

dsquared
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Catholic Catechism 1037 says that no one is predestined by God for eternal damnation. Of course, however, many clergy are not preaching this and may not even understand it themselves, so that they entirely confuse people who depend on listening to them and are not able to thoroughly study the Scriptures themselves!!! Many Catholic priests are actually denying that this is cited in Church Doctrine that no one outside the Church (all other religions, beliefs etc...), is pre-destined for eternal damnation. That is the corrected teaching of St Paul Apostle. St Peter Apostle wrote in one of his letters that already in his time, he knew of men who were twisting the Scriptures of St Paul, preaching to others, what they had no understanding of themselves!!!

cherylmburton
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God foreknew everyone. He says it. He said I knew you in the womb. He foreordained everyone with a path to become like Jesus. That’s what it’s saying. Paul probably didn’t word this like this. I hope not 😂😂😂 The translation is just horrible

Angel-uu
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He read the text and totally ignored explained nothing relevant to the passages he read, weird.

MateoManolo-slxp
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so that He would be the (D)firstborn among many brothers and sisters; what does this mean?

christopherowen