Hands-on with a real LNL chip, discussing the architecture & my opinion on the Intel Lunar Lake launch at IFA 2024 in Berlin. Can Lunar Lake compete with AMD's Zen 5 Strix Point and Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite?
"As you can't upgrade the memory, at least not withoht expert soldering skills." The mere thought of hand-modifying this fills me with dread.
klobiforpresident
that on package memory capacity is mind boggling, the chip alone can rival stripped down laptop. must be what it feels like when older generations transitioned from punch cards to ssds
jwjnlhc
Nice to see intel being able to compete again on power use.
fxnn
am I the only one that saw the box, saw it with 'intel' and 'core' and was disappointed that the box doesn't say 'intel core inside' anywhere and yes I know that's not the modern corporate image or whatever but man was that iconic
minyiiiii
I'm really happy you got to get one of these early units! I've commented before from the litho side of things as that was my doctoral research, but I though I'd add that my team did a good chunk of the Foveros groundwork that is in there. I'm really excited for LNL as it's a new sort of approach to chip design, even compared to MTL, for the teams behind it.
DigitalJedi
Lunar Lake honestly looks really promising. But, I do expect it to lose to Strix in multicore(mainly because it has like 2/3 of the cores and only a third of the threads). Still, I can see it being used in high end business class Laptops and for Students.
auritro
@5:03 You show an Intel slide. I saw something missing, or you could say two things missing: "The P-core to E-Core latency", and it being absent makes me wonder whether it would be No.5 on their own list had they included it 🤷
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I don't think this is likely, I just noticed it's but then saw that No.4 should have had it's own section considering they showed a 30-40% reduction in DRAM latency compared to the competition, but then did NOT show comparisons between No's1-3, and especially not the absent "P-core to E-Core latency" figure.!
ADB-zfzr
The starter RAM capacity of this chip, just make "fruits" shame. Still offering 8 Gigs even this year
Update: Maybe on Next Gen (Apple M4 Chips maybe), it will be fixed
adinnugroho
I had the idea of trying to shrink everything and put it on something the size of a processor and just have the motherboard be IO and power delivery. that way things like laptops and handhelds could be upgradeable. i think it would also simplify the design of the mainboard so smaller niche manufactures could go wild with unique designs.
Greenwithao
Are you going to frame that Lunar Lake and put it up on the wall? Looks kinda nice.
RickBeacham
This looks pretty sweet. I'd like to see the battery life on the laptops with these, considering the energy savings you mentioned.
Slavolko
Npu an Gpu takes a lot of place, will we get for lunar or panther lake some mobile chip with more cores, for high end gaming laptop or workstation?
adt
I grew up during the GHz wars, but I'd argue that seeing new technologies like this emerge and get adopted is even cooler!
PunmasterSTP
Really cool stuff. Looking forward to seeing if LL can match arm laptop efficiency
SiliconSteak
Interesting technology. What does it cost to produce though? Sounds like it costs twice as much as Strix, but it's barely any better.
nipa
Is the onboard memory for the gpu? Does that mean that it wont use youre pc memory?
ericg
How did you get that chip display? I want one.
coolgadgetproduction
I'm guessing the size differences also comes from the PCB substrate being much smaller as well, no need for external memory (even though that sucks). Thank god intel didn't offer a 8gb variant, 16gb minimum for these chips!
FAKEAXIS
Came here since you dropped some mods to fix AMD stuff. Good work, keep it up.
Is 32gb RAM enough for both CPU and GPU workloads combined?
