Sexual Misconduct in the Armed Forces

This is a clip from tomorrow's podcast release with J.O. Michel Maisonneuve, Barbara Anne Maisonneuve, and Mark Norman.

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[BaronSquanch]

As someone who is more left-leaning, J.B. Peterson flew under my radar for a long time. Sure, I know the name, but I never really paid much attention to him. Recently, I've been watching more and more of his work... and, oh boy. I like what I see. it is permeated through and through by logic !

[Towerguy]

My father was a pilot in the RCAF, joined in 1959. He said the military turned him into an alcoholic (he was a good alcoholic, functional non-aggressive). But he said that was the culture at the time, all of his instructors were guys from WW2. The lifespan of aircrew in WW2 was very short so to cope with the stress they drank my father said. Alcohol was available to them and that's how they bonded. I can understand that culture and I never held any resentment towards my father or the military...that's how fighting men of WW2 got through it, and they passed that culture on because that's all they knew.

[Warplux]

How does this man create this content and brings forth the discussions that people don't even realize need to be talked about and so much fundamental points that can help us understand each other. JP never ceases to capture my mind!

[SilverGeFer]

The other day, I was listening to Jordan Peterson’s voice without looking at the video and I realized how much he sounds like Bob Odenkirk and now I can’t unhear it. It’s like listening to Saul Goodman if he was a psychiatrist

[AmeeeZing]

The bravery to broach this subject makes you one of the most important men of 21 century

[zobek]

The part that is missed by this panel, is that military members are by nature more of the herd mentality, and I say that as 1. We have to be in order to follow orders.
There is also an understanding / perception that when reporting something, there will be backlash, and that leadership will "make it go away". The CO will get a bad mark for it happening under his/her command, and many will do whatever it takes to avoid that.
Reporting it outside the command, meaning the next layer up, can also have built-in problems.
Basically, victims are often more afraid of having their reputation and career ruined than dealing with SA through "proper channels".

[realtalkwithrebecca]

Wow! So glad you are covering this! My neighbor and close friend volunteered to go to wwII As a nurse. She wrote a book about sexual assault in the armed forces. She has written a book recently with a forward from author Kristen Hannah and is on podcasts and in the local newspaper here in Auburn often because of what a dynamic wonderful woman she is. Thank you for covering this Dr. Peterson!!

[AFringedGentianToEnnien]

Dearest Dr. Peterson, I loved the pic of you at Vancouver Island with your brother Charles. I thought you looked less heavy-hearted than I’ve seen you look in a long time and it made me so happy. Soak in time with your family.
Here’s a hug.
With Ruth Anne’s love

[thomasmaughan]

No alcohol in my entire Navy career. Needless to say I was usually the Duty Driver, the Designated Driver, and the person on duty when everyone else was wasted. I tended to be on duty for all holidays as well and suited me just fine to NOT be in the barracks when everyone else is wasted and vomiting onto whatever is nearest which often is another sailor. However, there's a price to pay; I was also not one of the "herd" animals; it didn't even rise to the level of being "outcast". It is just possible to do that as enlisted; but officers have rituals that seem to require liquor.

[ArielBerdugo]

Thank you Jordon. You are the front line.

[mikewatkins]

The military is very depressing. Gulf war veteran. Saw alot of things in Iraq which makes you drink. 😎🍺🎸

[Lakoda]

If I had to make a bad guess, more masculine women were likely the early women in the military. As more women were pushed by social pressure or pulled by economic incentive, you start getting less masculine women. The temperament of a women will affect the situations she puts herself in, the choices she makes, the options she sees, and even the reactions of those around her. Obviously assault isn't the victims fault but I know high feminine women who will flirt dangerously, and letting that behavior go unchecked is asking for trouble as much as letting uncontrolled men loose on an contained minority of women.

[SeanMurphy-du]

The US Army figured this out after Vietnam. When I was deployed to Bosnia with 1AD in 1996 American soldiers were under 'General Order Number One" which included a prohibition on alcohol possession or consumption and we were constantly having to explain to the allied soldiers, - Canadian included - why that was. It was because all the generals in the chain of command were Vietnam veterans.

[strategyandsocioeconomicsa]

There is a strong relationship between how the Church dealt with pedophile priests and how the CF dealt with sexual predators. Move them around, sweep under the rug, protect the organization or the unit at all costs. Services for victims were not available in the 90s. It is false to say otherwise. Seriously, why would you go and talk to a Padre (priest) or the MPs if you were sexually abused? If you reported something, you were perceived as a disturbance PERIOD. There was a summary investigation conducted by the leadership of the unit. Questions were asked and every member of the unit new what was going on. Rumors were generated. The CF is small. Even if Canada is a large country, you always run into old problems somehow and somewhere. At a mess, a gym or any other base. You will meet your predator somewhere.

The Irony? Alcohol was a major problem but some rules and regulations that were past in theater also caused other behavioral problems. When you forbid a person to take a beer with his peers to discuss atrocities or venting frustrations, you end up with a higher suicide rate. When you are in theater for 6 months with a 2 weeks vacation, it is not enough ventilation. Don’t get me wrong here. I know for a fact that M. Maisonneuve was an officer with grit, professionalism and I have a lot of respect for his accomplishments. Same for the other guests. My frustrations comes from my own experience reporting a senior officer in the 90’s and then getting posted somewhere else. Not the deviant person but me, the disturber. Having to testify in front of the deviant’s best buddy. Do you thing that the person changed his/her behaviour? NO. It kept going for years… Several outstanding officers left the CF because of sexual abuse or other kinds of abuses. Not all individuals with power use their power responsibly. Very interesting topic here Mr. Peterson. Thank you for tackling this with your guests.

[Tinkertown-xz]

The workforce just cannot be usefully scaled down to the quality standards that DEI requires. Incompetence blooms immediately as weve seen.
The results are in. The experiment is done

[LawofCinema]

Self destructive habits don’t heal you from traumatic experiences, they just temporarily distract from the pain. Getting hammered isn’t the solution, therapy is.

[tonyrossi]

As a veteran and a NCO in the U.S. Army there is no place for alcohol in a military that promotes high discipline. Alcohol consumption is in direct opposite to the concept of “military bearing”.

[Ibrian]

The reason we drank together is to muster the courage to show how we really feel….last man standing sets the rules
🙏🤗🍺cheers

[jadeorade]

I was in the military, and it's always awkward and weird when the women are around. We get more done without em

[bigdice]

Blaming alcohol for bad people's behavior the truth comes out in people when they're drunk protect the guilty again and again same old same old