The Current And Future State Of Endgame In ZZZ (Zenless Zone Zero) - Quick Thoughts

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It's time to discuss what we think of the endgame (now that I've made it). It feels like most free to play (F2P) or low spending players might also be getting here too and considering what is next so here's my quick thoughts on current and future endgame. Let me know what you think in the comments below!

I'm alos trying out a new format for content to help me get my thoughts out faster, so let me know what you think!

Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:30 Current Endgame
3:10 Future Endgame Context
4:45 Future Endgame
8:30 How Gacha Works

[nyaaalex]

One of my favorite things about your channel is the fact that your account feels very relatable. I love this kind of content, please continue to be yourself!

[FinalAnthony]

I really hope at some point Hoyo adds a horde/ endless mode. Put us on the Shiyu defense map, have us fight waves of different mobs, elites, and bosses that endlessly increase in quantity and aggression, then see how long you can last. Also, give it a CO-OP option so we can play with friends or random players. Something that sounds fun and replayable, at least to me. Thoughts?

[V-vision]

They've got the 1.2 live stream coming tomorrow. I assume they'll confirm the next endgame thing as a disrupted node but cycling out (almost) biweekly like what we've already got with Shiyu

[kirbymiester]

“My clear times aren’t the best”

*Clears Shiyu 7 with >1 min left*

[LorisTheUntethered]

Id like to offer a counter point if you are running the prime ice team: in this case you should absolutely heavily invest into Soukaku. She is an absolute powerhouse in her own right and her damage output directly makes Ellen stronger.

[Kro-RissaVirus]

I think something worth bringing up in this kind of discussion is the ZZZ devs comments when they mentioned that the combat is the main goal of this game and that because of this they really want to ease everyone into the endgame content for the first few patches and then after a little while they’ll start tweaking things.

[sevadra]

I think the full prospects of the endgame variety in Zenless are yet to come. There are so many small things hoyo has teased and put into proof of concept in the content available alone that beyond just Shiyu Defense and the shuffling of Anomaly Weakness/Resistances, other gamemodes like Hollow Zero and Notorious Hunt have room to grow and become something as well.

With the Withering Garden Ether activity debuffs, for example, making not just Nineveh harder but making you more carefully consider choices in Hollow Zero (I personally really enjoy it, I know not everyone does). Also the fact that we will at some point expect to see a new Boss Tier Ethereal in the main story, hopefully with the Sons of Calydon/Outer Ring arc coming soon, they may potentially make space for more of the other sites in Hollow Zero for that, which could mean a new exploration dynamic/resonia/white star institute conditions and more.

Theyve also planted the seed for Agent-Based ethereal combat via the Shadow Jane fight, which could pave way for other mimic ethereal rotations, or something representing a limited version of the Disputed Node, or a mix. Theres so much to consider that excites me at what's to come.

And to top it off, we just have no idea how any specific agent will do with these ideas in mind. Maybe they eventually decide to tinker with more than just the Anomaly Weaknesses and delve more into enemy buffs that counter certain stats or open synergy for supports to better highlight their utility. These are just all ideas, but I'd be glad to see like any of them, instead of just "Make Shiyu Defense harder over time."

[Pluritechno]

Is this the first time you do a facecam? Glad to be here. Good luck with your content. 😁

[Just_an_urn]

Thanks and great vid!

Team building in Hoyo games are marathons.

You will have a decent team of each type by the end of the year, F2P or not. That is when true endgame starts.

Until then; enjoy the story, enjoy the challenge as it is now. I feel by/in V2.0, the difficulty will be much harder than it is now.

[dawningmoment]

You took a long time getting to it but I appreciate the message of don't let the gacha gectcha and detailing how they try to.

[ThePairoFlan]

Great video (haven't even watched it yet)

[fuumdium]

I think this highlights one of my only issues with the way this game handles endgame, at least in terms of how you get upgrade materials, I finished the whole story with Ellen, Lycaon and Soukaku as my team, they're pretty decently built and I have zero issues clearing content with just them, including some of the stages where enemies are resistant to ice, and I got lucky with my pulls for Jane as I wanted a second team that had an attribute weakness in a different pool of enemies for those fights with enemies resistant to ice (and also for Shiyu) and I had enough materials on hand to get Jane and Seth to level 50, my Lucy was already at 47 and I haven't levelled her at all yet, and I have zero materials left over, given the lack of a proper second team at this moment in time, my daily routine once my energy has been regained is spending literally about 5 minutes on the game to spend that energy on upgrade materials (specifically Dennies, EXP and so on) and then immediately logging off again because it's likely to take me a fair few days of not playing the game at all to get the stuff I need to carry on with endgame content

I just find it unfortunate, cause every now and then I go "ooh I'd like to play some Zenless) and then remember I can't actually do anything cause I've finished everything besides Shiyu, and can't do Shiyu since I don't have another team to do it with, add to that the lack of any more missions, so there's no passive gain of polychrome or investigator logs to supplement when you can't get anymore from energy based activities

Maybe I should finish out the rest of the hard difficulty missions but the only ones I have left are the ice resistant enemies, which I wanted a better team to do

[jaricruz]

Love the content as always! keep it up! I just wanna share, I pull on limited banners mostly for the A ranks hahaha the S ranks are just the bonus, also I finally cleared critical node 7 within 5mins using Billy and Anton XD

[AceSpider]

all i hope for is more gameplay like withering garden, with selectable modifiers.

its by far the most fun and challenging content ive experienced, and the only thing that can really compare is disputed node 7.

[docedeleite]

also i wish you talked about how using the a ranks dps characters isnt a death sentence.for example: yeah jane is objectively better than piper but if for some reason someone didnt want jane or didnt get her, piper can still s rank clear with the right investment, and by the time jane is back again there might be a new dps that fits the same niche or a new support that also buffs piper

[RixtheTV]

thanks for this vid. it reassures me that it was right for me to pull for qing yi cuz i dont have stunners. (i was saving for jane)

[ChaiTea]

Very good points!
I think the endgame is really over estimated, sure it can get harder later on but your older characters will be fine, it's okay!
For example this current shiyu defense I cleared all S ranks with solo Jane, and Zhu+Nicolle on the other team, this is from someone who never got S ranks on my first month of shiyu defense, but pushing my 2 DPS to 60 and decent skills, now it's not bad even without a full team

[jodisauls]

Overall, I'm new to gatcha games
But these videos are really great especially for a f2p
I might even continue playing after all the free pulls dry up and go for miyabi thanks to you

[chito]

i'm excited for the COOP mode for ZZZ

[theUberPJ]

I like this new style with yourself in the vid ;) Should do some release new char livestreams. So when new update comes out. Good for your views and nice for us to check on ya