this tiny chain is absurdly powerful - Delta Signal Effects in Bitwig

As I said in the video, I would not advise using this on the master or critical sounds. For experimental sound design, it's cool. Some of the stuff, like the EQ FX mix, can be better done with a bandpass filter inside the "wet FX" box of certain effects like reverb. If you want to use the EQ you can re-create the bandpass eq trick from the beginning of the video INSIDE of the "wet fx" box of effects, so you dont eq the whole signal. Also, the whole delta thing fails when delay is introduced or dry and wet are too different.

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[LL]

I was hoping people would make the same for other daws, lets me be lazier 🔥 🔥

a few things:

the most powerful part of this technique is that it works with any effect, not just eq. I have seen multiple people do blending in of effects with eq in a similar manner previously, but have not seen people use other effects (although I'm sure some have). this flexibility is the most important part: i only sometimes use eqs for the splitting, more commonly I use clippers, choruses, transient shapers, spectral gates, etc. For example, you could use the bitwig odd/even harmonic split, and use it to mix two different separate signals together, one with only even harmonics and one with only odd! (would work best if the fundamental of both sounds is the same)

the second thing I want to mention is that i think because you're mixing the signals together at the end with dry wet rather than a parallel chain, it is at half the volume (unless bitwig dry wet uses equal power crossfades, in which case it's around 70.7% volume)

6:42 - the main difference between this effect with an eq and putting a bandpass on the reverb wet chain is that the eq is also effecting the dry signal in the opposite way: it cuts out the part where the reverb is added, thus acting like a dry/wet fader. However, I've only used bitwig briefly so you could be talking about something different then what I'm thinking of here, in which case the benefit, like you mention later, is the ability to use multiple eq points.

[cebenezer]

Nice - reminds me a little of the Dan Worrall video on emphasis and de-emphasis EQ.

[mølekule-ld]

you always come out with the best bitwig vids

[DioXine-itwt]

very nerdy stuff! i knew about phase corellations in EQs, it was useless knowledge for me, cause i mostly used phase fixes that were eating latency, but to USE that stuff like this... wow !

[mrchem-fm]

Dan Worrall introduced this concept to me few years ago, and I still keep coming with ideas to exploit it and experiments whit no clear idea where they'll take me :). Affecting 50% of one non-inverted and 50% of another inverted (canceled-out) signal with same processing will take the two in opposite directions. All-pass filter is a powerful tool here, series of them for even more fun. So say, you add disperser (kiloHearts) to such chain to get highlighted notes and harmonics on one signal, at the same time cutting the same frequencies on the other. Further, you can pitch-track it to incoming notes, or any other way which serves the purpose, like coming up with some weird chords, or affect same harmonics differently on two signals for some detune and stereo effects I'm sure I wouldn't come up with differently. If that's your thing anyway. For myself, I'd prefer less playing around and more finished tracks, but just can't help it :) Cheers for the video

[hrrld]

It's interesting to think about how this relates to the "Freq Split" device from 4.x --- I imagine its implementation may have something in common with this idea.

[CarrotSensitive]

I don't understand this trend. A delta isn't just the difference. The processing needs to be out of phase with the original sound, so the processing will always be the opposite polarity of the processing when it is mixed with the original audio. This might not be obvious on headphones, but on speakers, it would sound like the sound is "sucking" wrong, and especially with low frequency sounds. I was able to craft perfectly good mixes back in my day without the need of such approaches. ITB mixes can become quite easily too transparent sounding, further discretising the processing is only going to add to that, since it sounds like a parallel signal that doesn't quite belong to the input

"KISS" as they say

[lawinter]

I like your delta signal chain. I will use that. I also use delta signals in weird ways. I like to use them on buses because if you delta a glue compressor on a bus then any signal you send gets glue compressed as if the glue was on the master channel except this way you can exclude things if you want to. This also gives you (sort of) individual mix amount via the send knobs for the amount of compression per track but still using only one compressor. I also like to use this trick for sidechain compression and 1/4 pumping so that I can use only one volume shaper to make everything pump to same shape and still individual mix amounts.

[woopeedyscoop]

eq5 prolly will be better here since it is delay free and colour free 100%. eq+ changes the sound and has strange delay

btw i really wonder why they never fix eq+

[micromando]

The title here is absurdly cool, as most of the time 😊

[LockWithNoKeys]

Phase relationship is the same for a reverb with a band pass compared to example?? I’m not sure how

[andytuke]

Why is the additive drums device pumping out so much back ground noise?