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[hingadingadurgan]

taking a rust class next semester lol very excited

[CodingWithLewis]

What are your thoughts on JavaScript!? 🤔

[AndrewTSq]

fun fact Brian Eich (creator of JS) is sponsor of rust, and also contributing to the code.

[hamm]

Fun fact: it’s not about the speed, toolchaining, features, etc. it’s about the community.

I always find these questions so off base. There are more concise and well structured languages than English. That won’t change the critical mass that English has reached. French is never replacing English. German is never replacing English. Russian could or a dialect of Chinese could. Why? Because of community adoption.

Programmers should read some philosophy of language sometime like Wittgenstein. This is why liberal arts is vital to a curriculum. Sitting in your engineering bubble all day has lead to outrageous claims like GPT3 being anything close to a GAI

[Xylight]

People are still using cobol, I bet node will still be insanely popular for a few decades

[herkulessi]

I wholeheartedly believe that deno is more secure than node: That was one of the main reasons to create it... It uses the same JavaScript engine, but actually uses the permission model that v8 provides.

[wisdomelue]

it’s just gonna be how people tried to force us to believe graphql will completely demolish REST, well…

[kirkkennedylincoln]

Yea, deno is something I saw in 2020 and it's definitely a head turner 👍

[octubre_lilaka]

Though unlikely we may get to a point where deno or bun is preferred for new applications, but old ones still run on node because it's just what they were built on

[Sindoku]

I like you can import NPM packages, but I like Bun JS even more. I think we should be focusing on building its ecosystem up. It’s incredibly fast and it’s performance with JS ease of development, I think it would make JS even more ubiquitous.

[sabbirsobhani]

Nodejs will sustain strongly. Also Deno will play a role. But eventually its an improvement for JS. This is the hope. Love JS 💛. Haters stay away.

[DarkHorseDigitalPerformance]

Enough with the JavaScript Fatigue! So much easier to build in vanilla JavaScript if you know what you are doing.

[codeman-dev]

Or just use *bun*, which supported npm from the start.

Meanwhile, Ryan intentionally broke npm packages with deno at the start.

[MaJetiGizzle]

Oh so you mean that same npm compatibility that Bun had from the jump?

Good on Deno for finally catching up, I guess…?

[joopie]

Deno is pointless it has no actual killer advantages over node.js, it will not kill it

[lanceqt]

I think Bun.js can do the same while being even faster then Deno.

[Dev-Siri]

Deno is still 1.5x slower than node in most benchmarks :/

[Vietnamkid]

All hype 😉GraphQL was supposed to kill rest apis, that didn’t happen. Microservices was supposed to kill monoliths, that didn’t happen. Websockets were suppose to kill regular ajax, that didn’t happen.

[theballadofkobirae]

I just learned how to use npm and create my first JSON file. Do you recommend me learning this instead of node js

[danerbond]

Instead of these half-assed runtimes we need something actually worth switching to. A Typescript runtime that takes types seriously would be a start, and it would allow the runtime to optimize those codepaths and memory management further.

In the dynamic world Js is ahead. But let's not forget it's extremely slow compared to some very ergonomic languages, and has no reason to be preferred in backend development right now. Unless you're building something small on your own I don't see why people should accept the performance and lack of safety in a language this old. Js comes with a ton of baggage, and so does Node.