Gun Laws: Extended Interview With David Chipman | The Problem With Jon Stewart | Apple TV+

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In this extended interview from our episode, The Problem With Guns, Jon sat down with former ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives) agent and gun control advocate David Chipman to talk about domestic violence, gun violence, police culture.

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It doesn't fill me with confidence when someone talks with an ATF agent about all of the illegal and terrible shit that local police either ignore, or don't understand due to lack of training. And his response is just... Yep, you're right.

Arrowed_Sparrow
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Mad respect to this dude's honesty and ability to actually handle talking to Jon. Love Jon Stewart. Glad he is still doing these.

Gpacalypse
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What a great interview! I didn’t know John was doing this. Makes me really happy to hear intelligent discourse in today’s world.

Billma
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So what I get from this is we do not have a large enough ATF to be effective. I do appreciate the honesty in this conversation. For me its an easier pill to swallow if its the truth and not what you want to hear.

rexthomas
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Holy shit. What am I watching? A person being interviewed who isn't trying to weasel out of answering questions! Two people actually having a somewhat level discussion. With no blatant evasion tactics. This is amazing!
Also, I love how Mr Chipman raises actual practical concerns, like "Where do we store the guns we confiscate". And yes, my reaction also was "That should absolutely not be the thing stopping police from taking guns" but yeah, of course it would be. I mean a guy with 74 guns, plus ammo, you can't just chuck those in a cardboard box somewhere in a basement.

avaDesdemona
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it doesn't HAVE to be overtime. I'm more than happy to have fewer cops spending time handing out parking and speeding tickets and doing more gun violence prevention during the normal 40 hour work week.

ChristopherCricketWallace
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Stewart is always brilliant. But let’s really take our hats off to the ATF officer who is so open, honest, forthright and relatable.

dzfz
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I was involved in a domestic situation where my then husband was messed up on drugs and wouldn’t let me back in our home to get any of mine or my childs belongings and threatened to hurt me if I came into the house. The police came and literally let him call his mother to come help him leave the house with his guns and our child. They stated it was a domestic issue and they couldn’t stop him. That’s the moment I realized the police would never help me if I needed them. Not long after that he put a gun to my head and threatened me again. I didn’t bother telling the police but I did file for divorce. The system is flawed

mistynicole
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I'm so glad he mentioned the "warrior" mentality of police.
We need to fundamentally change the our police hiring standards.
WE DO NOT NEED WARRIORS! Especially wanna be warriors. Enlist and man a post if you're a warrior.
We need Guardians.
AAAANNNDDDD, police training needs to be 90% conflict management and 10% firearms. It's currently flip-flopped.

normlang
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Thank you, Jon Stewart for not being another person who dismisses women's concerns. Thank you for using your platform to express the f*cked up situation we find ourselves in where the right of another who has demonstrated violence toward us to own guns is given priority over our rights to live.

rachelk
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I’m so glad I found this guy, these kinds of conversations NEED to happen. This is so refreshing

webzentertainment
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I have been arguing “what about our right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”. So glad he said this.

Trenchant
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At the end you can hear the gears turning in John’s head “well, I know who I’m harassing next”

Get ‘me John

robertaylor
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When the cops regard the inconvenience of storing guns as being more of a problem than stopping gun violence you know we are in trouble.

macrumpton
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He is a great guest and did great job of laying out the situation. Thank you for having him.

pipersall
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Jon Stewart, YOU are the voice of reason for America right now. Bless you for doing God's work and helping protect us. Amen.

LavendLady
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When he said "police are strapped in their budgets" I literally laughed out loud. Police budgets have absolutely exploded over that last 40 years, outpacing ALL other municipal spending by many orders of magnitude. In fact, studies have shown that one of the primary reasons that crime isn't going down is that the social programs that help people in poverty, who sometimes turn to crime, have been cut in order to expand police depts. Get real!

dlg
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I love you Jon Stewart. Glad to see that we are still able to have rational, intelligent conversations about difficult topics in this country.

jimeinstman
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We lost George Carlin and on days I would read the news and comment" Its days like this I wish George was still alive so he could comment" where it would be comical and makes you stop and think. Thank goodness we have Jon Stewart.

sandmonjones
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"The pursuit of freedom and happiness doesn't include ducking". That's beautiful John!

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