Does Size Matter???

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[justintolentino]

Size may not matter, but you pay a premium on small components! It ain’t easy to miniaturize. Who remembers the Zoolander scene with the super tiny phones?

[JaiAzura]

If you're building an ITX build, yes size would matter. The 4080 ProArt is one of the few 4080s that would fit in the Fractal Terra for example.

[SonicXRage]

Jay, I've been enjoying these shorts! I do have one suggestion: Perhaps you should focus on doing shorts for the things which people often forget or otherwise get wrong when building a PC. You've done exactly this with your recent shorts on applying thermal paste and avoiding mixing up PSU cables. Most building tutorials are rather long, so it would be great if you did more shorts on those confusing parts of building PCs.

[Foxhood]

Causal chain is simple: Nvidia first aimed for 600w for 4090, everyone made 600w coolers and then reused the 600w coolers for a lower-tier card in order to save money via bulk production. The ProArt on the other-hand got a proper tailored cooler for the size.

[couryswan]

Yup...it does...but endurance is also key.

[TowerSavant]

They gave us over-sized over-built coolers, creating a demand for something reasonably sized and have attempted to upsale us on a smaller cooler that should be naturally cheaper. amazing

[akmid]

I would like to point out the proart is actually 1399 dollars if you find it in stock. The 1738 is from a 3rd party. Does that make a difference that depends on the person I guess.

[ChrisStoneinator]

The bigger card has a higher heat capacity and will take longer to converge on a thermal equilibrium. Cards will also converge on a steady state in non-analytical fashion due to fan curves. To really test its ability to dissipate heat, you have to demonstrate that both cards are at steady state before giving numbers, and normalising for noise.

[KameSonRaijin]

Hey, Jay!

A few months ago I told you I was building a PC. It took a few months to get my hands on everything, but I wanted to say thank you for the lessons and how to confidently boot it up for the first time!

CPU: Intel i9 13900k
GPU: ASUS TUF RTX 4080
RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum II 64 GB (White)
MB: NZXT Z790 (White)
SSD: WD_Black 1TB
PSU: Corsair RM 1000X PSU
AIO: ID Frostflow 280mm
Display: Idea Display G34W
Peripherals: Logitech K650 and Logitech MX 3S (both white) and a purple topographic mousepad. I already had an HK Onyx speaker.
Case: Corsair 4000D (Black)

I got black, combed motherboard cables and a combed GPU adapter. Lol the GPU was so big I had to mount the radiator and fans on the outside of the case. I learned a lot about going with the flow and letting the PC components tell me how to build it.

I think I did above average on cable management, too. Made sure my Velcro straps had the logo facing the same way.
CPU stays around 25-40 degrees when I’m working. I started coding online and classes start again in the fall. Not to mention gaming. I’ll send pics to you one of these days.

Lots of other things I can’t remember who taught me, but I’m pretty sure you did a lot of it. Negative pressure in my case draws more air in from outside. Which SSD to pick, refresh rates, what’s the point of a high end PC if it’s bottlenecked at the display?

Thanks again, Jay and team! Stay blessed!

[robertbrainard]

this is why i decided to buy a 4 slot m-atx over a 2 slot itx. one major reason, the psu. with the m-atx, you can use normal sized psu's while the majority of itx cases are sfx psu's. the cost difference between a 600 watt sfx and a 600 watt psu can be the difference between 50 and 100 dollars. Also the motherboards for m-atx are way cheaper than itx motherboards.

[josesantizo]

That ProArt looks beautiful, the colorway is much better and sleeker

[EchoYankee]

My Suprim Liquid X 4090 never goes above 55°C. I love it, its only a 2 slot card. The tubes are a bit cumbersome, but I love those temps.

[yougaming]

Have a MSI suprimx 4080 and boy it runs cool, the size of cooling chambers is massive and does help.

[kianushghahari]

Honestly I'd prefer a smaller card any time! A small compact easy to move around is what I love most

[corie_]

I have the same 4080 strix! Love it. Same cooler as a 4090.

[Dr_Angry]

Hey Jay. That's 340 watts not 440 😅. Great short either way ❤

[UnhingedSystems]

ProArt is an odd part of their product lineup. The ProArt X570 board chipset runs hot (plastic panel screwed in over top of the heatsink, which I promptly removed).

I think the ProArt series of products look nice, but Strix is still the better option.

[tankdawg]

If you opted for a small case and did not account for video card size.... Then yes. Size does matter 😂
Most people plan for aesthetics over function and then wonder why shit don't

[raggarex]

The way the dialogue loops on itself when the sorry restarts is very clever. Surprised I don't see it more often from others.

[samuelmendoza]

Size matters since it means bigger heatsinks. More thermal mass and more surface area. Obviously, the problem is it can't fit on smaller cases.