BJJ vs Judo Sparring Breakdown

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[josiahmmann]

Judo brown belt here - I don't disagree about judoka over committing, but many times, as I suspect is the case here, it's not actually overcommitting - it's undercommitting for the sake of safety. A committed judo throw here would have been him making the circle less round and landing on your ribs while maintaining a close connection.

He's throwing you up in the air, not down into the ground, which is why you have all of the extra space and opportunities. You can also see that he posts on his hand in order to protect you from his weight.

"Mutual Benefit and Welfare" is one of the two core tenets of Judo and it seems to be a bigger training priority in Judo than BJJ in my experience.

[Dynamic]

Friendly PSA. When Judo guys “over commit” by rolling through or hover above, it’s often not accidental. They are intentionally trying to lessen the blow of the impact for the receiver. Getting thrown is one thing, getting thrown while they land connected with full weight on top of you, sandwiching your body, with no ability to rebound… it’s a fight ender even on the mat. A comparison would be like blasting an arm bar full speed and tensions with no ability to tap vs getting into it more technically. The problem is you can’t really slow down some of the throws when it’s in full send, but a good thrower can lessen its impact, often by rolling through or posting…

So, smile slap dap and appreciate them for not breaking ribs. 😂

[ongabonga]

you killed him on the ground but he sent you flying on his personal airline. super good technique from him.

[bidibum]

Love the "that's what I was trying to do" clip, I have no experience whatsoever in grappling but I find it really entertaining, and I know I'll do it sooner or later. Thanks for the quality contents Jeff

[chilatelover]

I really appreciate these breakdowns. This is why BJJ has levels. . . one could easily miss so much.

[lornemcculloch-auld]

As a guy who's been training BJJ and Wrestling for the last 3 months, I can say you make it look easy! As a grappling noob, it is kind of cool seeing some familiar moves, mainly because I'm often on the other side of them XD. I look forward to seeing more content!

[Jabbadabut]

If he lands on you with that uchi Mata instead of trying to be a good partner then he might not have had the overcommitment issue a lot of judo guys have on the throw but of course it’s very frowned upon to land on your partner after you throw them since it causes A LOT more damage which is unnecessary in a light rolling/sparring session. This happens a lot when judokas train in BJJ where they are trying to throw someone but at the same time not do too much damage since it isn’t the objective. Amazing uchi Mata and amazing groundwork by Jeff!

[bobbyhidayat]

Hey I don't think he's over-commiting. If he throws you with full strength, it would actually be very painful for you especially for throws where he adds in his weight in the momentum. During randoris I got thrown by a black belt and while it wasn't that painful, I still feel pain throughout my entire body and that is with him taking easy.

[bronstet]

As a Judoka, I cheered when Jay sent you flying and cried when you outclassed him on the ground and fully expected both of these results. Both fighting systems are great but they do have their strengths and weaknesses. I find BJJ deficient in throws, takedowns and trips and Judo outclassed in the overall grappling game. C'est la vie. I freely vouch for the fact that I am always submitted in grappling by BJJ guys and like poor Jay here, I've very often sent them flying first only to be submitted shortly thereafter. 😕I always tell BJJ fighters I work with that I'm good enough to make you have to work for it, but we both know is winning in the end. It's all good and they should be proud of the work they put in and their abilities. I'm always very happy to work with them and trade Judo for BJJ knowledge. 🙂

[jylpah]

The both showed really nice technique. Those judo sweeps and throws are just awesome. BJJ ground-game is on totally different level.

[louisjolliet]

You are extremely well-rounded, man. I also always appreciate your sparring intensity.

[nickyeng]

Excellent video with a great narration as always. Jay exhibits great control and grace. Most of my judo training was outside of the US where there seemed to be more of a balance between the training of Nage-Waza, Katame-Waza and Atemi-Waza. Judo can be all encompassing if we let it. Sometimes it's ok to turn off the sport mode and go old school;)

The judo and BJJ cross training combination is really formidable. I know for me it took over a decade after shodan to really start to scrape the surface in terms of the way these two arts can offer synergies in a fight situation.

Jeff, your ground game is becoming very impresive. It is starting to look intuitive and instinctive, nice job.

[glennx]

A video on judo throws no gi+ follow up would be very nice to add to the game. I love wrestling but i think judo has a lot of good but is often misunderstood.

[AlanHernandez-nhvr]

He didn't over committed, a real judoka will always protect uke when throwing, he could land on top but it's dangerous for uke so he put the hands on the mat. Throws are not difficult, protecting uke is the hard part.

[BenBlader]

This is a video that could help anyone appreciate and understand the art of grappling. Great video, Jeff.

[MrHmmburger]

More grappling!! Great lesson again, good job Jeff! But honestly variety is awesome, i try to latch on to at least one idea and try out. and if you cycle through different departments of the mma game, I always look forward to it

[slavicvolk]

1:15 o goshi/uki goshi
2:28 leg weave passing
3:17 mounted reverse triangle
4:03 kosoto gake
4:46 uchimata, kguard backtake
5:53 kouchi gake

[blakewangler]

I truly love judo I love the Standing Submissions and Throws.
They also have a fair bit of Newaza as well it's so underrated.

[mikelobao]

Love your wrapping videos just as much as your Mauy Thai videos.
What ever you put out it's golden

[stormeagle]

I'm Judoka for more than 30 years now and BJJ player too. At 4:50 it's no over-commitment, he did his Uchi Mata very well (which in a Judo tournament would have made him win by Ippon instantly) and tried everything he could to not fall onto you - what you took advantage from. Also fighting in no-gi styles is a big disadvantage for Judokas, especially in Ne Waza (groundfighting).