Apple's NEW Passwords app (+ why I’m NOT using it)

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Apple is introducing a standalone Passwords app with iOS 18, which is essentially a password manager upgrade to Keychain. As we've tested a beta version of the app, there are multiple benefits to their app as well as some major problems. Listen as Josh explains why it's ideal for some people, but why he won't be switching to Apple Passwords.

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Video Timestamps
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0:00 - Why I'm NOT using it?
0:22 - Keychain App
1:16 - Password features
3:19 - What's Missing?
4:04 - Redundant passcode
5:11 - Separation of powers
5:29 - Recommendations
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With the new iPhone iOS 18 and Mac OS Sonoma, Apple is introducing its first standalone password manager app to rival the likes of 1Password, Dashlane, Bitwarden, Proton Pass and others. But is it really the same? There are similarities between them, but the differences are probably greater than you realize, and it could affect whether or not you use the new app.

#ios18features #applepasswords #passwordmanager
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I think Apple Passwords is the best choice for anyone in the Apple ecosystem. I’ve never felt the need to store my passports or IDs in a password app since they can be securely kept in the Notes app with a custom password. Concerns about hypothetical security issues seem like self-justifications for sticking with a third-party app. I understand that using cross-platform devices or not wanting to depend on one company are good reasons for opting for a third-party password manager tho.

iwishyouwould
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You can say what you want about Apples Password manager, but the fact that it unlike many other popular third party ones has never suffered a data breach is incredible.

domdomdomme
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I'll be moving to it. I won't have to pay 1password anymore and with all things Apple, it will work great and be well integrated into the phone.

nate
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Turning on Stolen Device Protection means that, if Face ID verification fails, it will NOT allow the Passcode as a fallback option, it will only accept Face ID. This works with the Passwords app but also everywhere that asks for Face ID

Jackamo
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Notes on iOS can store Passport info etc and be locked behind Face ID. The app doesn't need to do that like other managers do.

SideshowBob
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If you enable stolen device protection, Face ID would be the only way to access the Passwords app. You would not be able to use the passcode

CanaanG
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Question, does Apple Password only work with Safari browser or does it also work with other web browsers such as Google Chrome etc?

ramogiodeny
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Tip - store whatever info you need in Apple Notes and lock it in addition enable Face ID for Notes.

cpkadam
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really same thing i was thinking..one login password foe the password app is far too dangerous❤

Savagehunter
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it’s free…works really well…good enough for me👍 nice to save 65 bucks a year for 1password…thanks Apple🤗

Mr.Tec
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Why are you talking like this would be new? The Apple Password Manager existed for a long time it was just inside the settings app and not a separate app. The only new function that this app has is the ability to generate wifi QR-Codes. So there wont be any Apple Users switching over to the new app since they are already using it just with a slightly different interface.

lukchem
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I’ve been using Keychain for years now, and been really going crazy with security and privacy stuff this last year and even managed to enable 2FA via authenticator on any accounts that allow it, and made super strong passwords as well. Been running the beta of iOS 18 for a while now and the new Passwords app is awesome! Think Apple really just killed 1Password and a lot of others with this one haha.

johny
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I’ve been using the existing Keychain app and the extensions for Edge and Chrome work quite well, even allowing for newer features of the Keychain app, like shared passwords.

The iCloud for windows app is actually quite handy if you’re stuck using a Windows PC and need access to your otherwise Apple ecosystem.

GoFastGator
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I saw the reasons you put and they are 100% understandable, and although I consider that I am like you, in that I do not like to depend on a single company sometimes, or that I like to have extra security in certain internal apps beyond the code, in this case because I have several Apple devices I feel it is the only exception I am willing to make, as I want to have the benefits of having a code authenticator and my password manager in the same place, since I find it very complex, time consuming and even unsafe to have to re-install the apps I have every time I change devices or format, and it is extremely satisfying that once I log into a new Apple device, I have all my passwords at hand in a secure, private, easily accessible way but only if I put my face to unlock it.

I also like this kind of easier and quicker way to access my credentials because on a few past occasions I have been on the verge of losing my passwords both authenticator and regular passwords due to backups, expired subscriptions, etc and it sucks that feeling, but I totally understand that it doesn't work so well for someone who is not into the Apple ecosystem completely.

Cesar_Soria
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Josh, you inspired me to create my own business based on cybersecurity as I am very interested in your content. I want to say thank you for this channel because I now found what my interest is in 🙂

Eeeeejjejsud
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Is this more or less just an enhanced, more user-accessible version of Keychain? I’m already using Keychain for many (not all) passwords, so this seems like a natural evolution — which I guess is Apple’s strategy. Thanks for the video!

dogmcmoose
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I am a dedicated apple user but I agree with this video. I like bitwarden.

dragonballjiujitsu
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I have switched from 1password to using the built-in tools inside macOS. I use the passwords feature, that’s accessible by the settings app, and this new password app, and then I store everything else that you are mentioning in secure notes in the notes app.

nunuvyurbiz
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I moved to it and I love it. I’ve used Apple for well over 20 years and pretty much everything I do revolves around Mac and iPhone and iPad, both personally, and professionally, and as someone with a disability? 3/4 of mobile screen reader users use iPhone last I checked. :-)

rml
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Yes, I've just purchased my first iphone ever on Friday and I started using the password app today and I'm really enjoying both my iphone 16 pro and the password app.
Good job Apple 🍎

robertsalyers