Leibniz's Argument For Monads #philosophy #bryanmagee #leibniz

A short clip of Bryan Magee summing up one of Leibniz's arguments for monads given at the beginning of his Monadology. This is from a program on Spinoza and Leibniz in the 1987 series on the Great Philosophers.

#philosophy #leibniz #bryanmagee

[SoulofArtificialIntelligence]

Leibniz is saying that everything,
that's complex must be analyzeable (Analyzeable does not mean, we are able and will do the practical analysis)
into simpler elements. (Do We train this seriously to be experts in this process?) If the simpler
elements are still complex, then they
must be further analyzable (But do we keep analyzing further from the complex towards the simpler?), and therefore
it must be the case that sooner or later (Sooner is deeply valued, sooner means within less amount of time, and acceleration during this process counts) you
come to simple, not further analyzable
constituents of matter or the world, or
the universe or whatever it might be.

Now, these simple constituents can't be
material, because the very definition of
matter is that it's something extended,
and an extension is always subdivisible,
so if they're not further subdivisible, they
can't be extended and if they're not
extended, they can't matter, so the
ultimate constituents of reality must be
something immaterial and not
occupying space.

[Nithin_sp]

I swear to God I was thinking "How can something which occupies a certain amount of space by definition can not possibly be divided?"
Wow! I love lebnitz's answer to that!! ❤

[Daniel-zyrz]

i once offered to show a girl I fancied my extended matter...
it was implicit from her kick that she intended to make my monads divisible...

[OngoGablogian]

I've been saying this for years too.

[ChrisMusante]

This is so simple it's hidden in our faces for thousands of years. Gimme a mic already - it's time to fix this 'mess'.

Thanks in advance.

[shyamachaitanya]

How is Leibniz saying something radically new than Kanada, the Ancient Indian Philosopher who said the last constituent was Paramanu which must be Niravayava (The last unit is non material unit with the basic attribute of number "One"?

[Eta_Carinae__]

Wonder if Leibniz was alive, if he'd think we've found monads in point particles

[iBlameZoidberg]

If a rubber band vibrates when I flick it, it proves the universe has a vibrating rubber band in it.

[Danyel]

Electrons have no extent as far as we are concerned, but they do have mass, and being fermions, constitute matter.

[Nithin_sp]

Simples have been conceptualized since the inception of Metaphysics 💀

It's hilarious seeing Muslims and Hindus in the comments trying to establish that their religion has been teaching it all along 😂

[thomasweir]

Match that up with Pythagorean harmonic theory and you've pretty much got String theory.

[FerozKhan-ssnn]

God is immaterial and as such God does need to occupy the space. But it is still the space that needs to occupy God but it was not clear how?

[pada]

The definition of matter here is not correct.

[AAAN]

Muslims theologians have long argued about the monad, it worths studying what they wrote about that subject.
May be Leibniz learned that from them.

[endoalley]

Can this be proven? Or is it conjecture?