Trolleybuses in Tallinn: no money for mistakes

The Estonian capital of Tallinn considered closing the city's trolleybus system, but in the end decided to modernize and upgrade it.
This video, for the first time on my channel, contains not only my comments, but also a conversation with the transport engineer of Tallinn City Council Grigori Parfjonov about this.

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[cityforall]

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[lachd]

If you already have trolleybuses, it is mad to rip them out. Great to hear cities investing in their systems.

[intervrt]

nice to have some really sensible decision making and positive press for Tallinn, trolleybuses are not quite trams but they've proven to have their place

[xsdpgwe]

10:58 "... politicians in Tallinn they are wise enough not to look at fashionable trends and look into detail what works and doesn't work to benefit the citizens... "

[urbanmobilityexplained]

Oh! So great you included Grigori Parfjonov's insight. Thank you for this video 🙌

[georgH]

It's rare to see direct feedback from the city directly, well done!

[MrExec]

A beautiful city with a great, brave people. God Bless Estonian.

[scottyc]

As its been a bit more than 10 years since I visited Tallinn, one thing I came away during my short visit, was how hard -working the people, including politicians worked for the country and the common good of the people. Even when decisions can be painful in the short- or medium-term. If that spirit still exists, I'm very hopeful this will turn out 👍🏻! I wish them the best of luck.

[amadeosendiulo]

I love how these modern trolleybuses can detachfrom the wire!

[yewenyi]

In 1999 I was in Tallinn I really enjoyed travelling on the old trolley buses so it is good to see that they kept them. I did buy a ticket but none of the machines on the buses worked so you couldn’t use the ticket anyway.

[xsdpgwe]

8:48 The fact that trolley bus passenger volumes fit in between bus and trams. And that trolley buses allow for the transition from buses to trams as future public transportation needs grow.

[moover]

double articulated trolley busses certainly are a great step towards converting main lines into trams

[KyrilPG]

Very nice!
These double bendy busses are becoming more and more popular in various cities. It's great for Tallinn.
I usually am not really interested in buses, but the long ones that almost look like trams have caught my eye and sparked my interest.
There are some Van Hool 24m double bendies with a tram look and Alstom charging system that are being delivered for the proper BRT busway line Tzen4 in Paris suburbs.

Maybe you can try talking to Paris' IDFM and SGP (former Société du Grand Paris, now Société des Grands Projets), they seem quite open to communicate with and welcome youtubers in the urban transit field. They've invited Reece from RMTransit to visit the building sites of the Grand Paris Express recently.
I'll be sure to drop them a line about getting in touch with you.
They've done a great job communicating with La Fabrique du Métro and the expo in the Trocadero, but their YouTube presence is too simple.
So, they should continue to include specialized youtubers more and more.

Great video, as always.

[lazybrick]

As a Vilnius citizen, I’m jelly, also super weird seeing trolleybuses in Tallinn whizzing around at such speeds.

Cudos

[timectrl]

I'm so glad to see that Tallinn is doing this!

[timectrl]

The very last legacy trolleybus will loop on November 1st at 12:25 am (local time) before the renewal begins.

[LeonidJP]

Moscow: We've the biggest Trolleybus network in the world? Yeah, close it! 😁🔨

[virajsharma]

keep doing this extended videos about one news i really like this type of videos the weekly news one don't give enough time to each story.

[obus]

In Hamilton, ON (Canada) they took the opposite approach. They did what was "fashionable". The company's own study showed the trolleybus was cheaper to operate than a CNG or diesel bus...so they ignored the result. A trial of CNG buses was a disaster...they were worse than diesels...so they ignored that result and ordered a fleet of CNG buses which they scrapped after only a few years (5-6). When you're WASTING TAX DOLLARS there is no limit to what you might try.

[realhawaiio]

As a regular user of Tallinn #3 Trolleybus to go from home to University, I can tell you that it only makes sense to invest in Trolleybuses.
As an electrical engineer, I can tell you it makes very little sense to invest in electric buses over trolleys...