The Chinese Internet is Coming...

In this video essay we discuss China's Role in the future of the internet, as well as the unique Internet Culture that has developed in China.

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[yogurtify]

as a chinese, no douyin (chinese tiktok) does not push educational content, no it does not require an id to sign up, and no it does not limit minors with their screen time
but other than that, great vid

[Ayedyn]

Xiaohongshu is pretty unambiguously little red book. Little red money envelope is referred to as Hongbao, bao referring to bag or pocket and more analogous to envelope. Although Mao's book is little red book in English, it has a different name in Chinese, so it's probably still a coincidence.

[qkacq]

"Social Cohesion" might be hard to understand for people not used to it, but it's present in most confucian societies. What it essentially means is fostering a culture of collaboration, friendliness, tolerance, and understanding each other's point of view. Making changes by collaboration and understanding, rather than winning and imposing changes on the losers.

When you discuss something, you discuss it civilly rather than attacking each other. When you see something online that you don't like, just move on rather than leaving hateful comments, and if needed, write constructive criticism instead. If the gooberman made a mistake, understand the nuance, understand why the decision is made, analyze it, critcise it (constructively), and even propose a way out of the issue.

So on and so forth. It's probably why mainstream East Asian internet is usually a lot more friendly than English speaking ones. You don't get people telling you to kay-wai-ass just for being LGBT, well, it happens but not as toxic as elsewhere.

On that LGBT thing, it also means you don't rock the boat by trying to change the norm with activism, just be gay but don't be an activist, no one cares about what you do in life, but don't antagonize other people by calling them names just because they don't support LGBT. This might be perceived as China or Japan being anti-lgbt but it's actually quite equal by asking both sides to be nice with each other even if the views are opposing. Can't say for Korea tho.

There are of course issues, where these things are unequally enforced, e.g some platforms where subtle misogyny is more prevalent so those are things to be improved.

East Asia is super nuanced. You'd get rules like "Be nice to people and promote social cohesion" but what does that mean? Who knows, it's up to each person. While in the west you guys are usually more detailed listing every point by point.

[mirror]

China's government actually reacted incredibly favourably to the recent influx on Xiaohongshu.

[chriscain]

Im Chinese, no we did not erect "great walls" to separate us and the world, our citizens have absolute full access to information outside of the walls, they know exactly what the ouside is using.
The wall isnt inward facing, we know you, you dont know us.

[Blackpoliticalguy]

Gotta love how our congress will act extremely quickly on the most non important issues in existence

EDIT: Lots of people are calling this TikTok issue important. I think it’s important to a certain extent.
However I disagree that congress deeply cares about this issue and the privacy of the American people because if they did they would have already passed Medicare for All, free college, expanded union support, breaking up monopolies. But they don’t do this. You guys need to understand all of this TikTok issue is geopolitical. It’s politics, not people. Oh shit I just unironically came with a fire slogan. Anyways, that’s my point. Thanks

[nik]

The countries that have banned tiktok are Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, and India. Very developed and democratic, very good values in those societies. Now to that list joins the US.
Great list to be a part of.

[crossfire-pn]

Looks the US government haven't thought of Temu and Shein.

[WolfiiDog]

I am not even American, but I jumped in on the trend of getting on rednote. And this connection that is happening right now really is something special, I have always said that china looks like the future, but after actually interacting with real people over there, I'm more certain than ever. I really hope we are in the beginning of huge changes for the better in the west and the rest of the world, not just on the internet. Life can and should be a lot better than it is now

[ack]

They isolated themselves exactly to be independent and self sufficient. And USA angry at them because it's somehow works.

[walterkruger]

Love the Plants vs Zombies music at the start

[dazzlingsky]

Those Chinese people on red note are actually pretty chill also they have cool fursuits


don’t worry about that last part

[rastoferi]

What do you call Shein, Temu and Fantuan? Theyre already here way before Xiaohongshu. Thats just shopping btw, if you look at gaming well Black Myth Wukong was just named Steam's GoTY

[nope.]

A Captain Goes down with its ship, I'm getting a Hobbie

[cellonotviolin]

this is really a jumpscare video as a fellow Chinese. Love that you mentioned all the cultural differences between China and the rest of the world due to GFW, cuz there are TONS OF LORES behind those social media platform, memes, online celebrities etc. like, it's fun to see you describe Bilibili as anime-heavy and relaxing, for it's actually its deviation from the anime-content and monetization towards so-called 'normies' that we talk about it these days.

and from what i see and hear (well im queer so what i heard is generally from other Chinese queers) about Xiaohongshu migration is that, Chinese queers are so happy about being mutuals with other queers and friendly people rather than hiding from terfs and homophobes. Yet there are still tons of Chinese saying LGBTQ+ are cultural invasion or just trying to teach foreign queers "respect our homophobic and transphobic culture" (ofc they wouldn't directly say that but ifkyk). if you step further onto Weibo, you can see CeSuo (literally trans. as "toilet") culture as the localization of 4chan on a public social media, you got your internet beefs and doxxing and someone su!cide from cyberbullying from here.

sorry for venting out here lol it's just that i'm native so my whole teenage life was around these app, and i hate them, and i already deviated from the whole Chinese online social life. just fyi if you wanna try our apps, our incels and terfs are CRAZY. if you don't care about them, start learning pinyin otherwise you won't be able to decode our efforts escaping the CCP censorship lol

[mrwaldoful]

If by revolutionized you mean ruined everything then yeah for sure

[bamdadkhan]

'the internet is the same from pakistan to panama'

here i am sitting in europe wondering what the hell 'line' and 'venmo' are..

[hwasiaqhan]

I’m not a big fan of CCP, but if I had a choice I’d also restrict access to foreign internet sites, lets not be naive here, the internet and western mainstream media as well as Hollywood are major platforms of western centric propagandas, we do realise we live in an western hegemony era right? From my personal experience the western propagandas are far more powerful than CCP’s, it taught me grow to hate my own race for a long time and it took me a while to figure the amount of propagandas that have been indoctrinated in to people in the west, Asians are always portrayed as somewhat alien, almost a different species, ridiculed, mocked and openly hated in movies and public, have you ever watched an Hollywood movie where it’s set in Asia and the protagonist is always a White man who comes as a saviour to the local Asians and especially Asian women? Lmao it’s pure evil

[julioaurelio]

I loved the use of Terraria Corruption music.

[williambenedictalava]

Correction chief..

Its Communist Party Of China not Chinese Communist Party.