Overwatch 2 - SEASON 7 Hero Tier List

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Baptiste and Illari (flex supports) are still too good.

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0:00 Intro

0:36 1) DVa
0:56 2) Doomfist
1:31 3) Junker Queen
2:05 4) Orisa
2:53 5) Ramattra
3:21 6) Reinhardt
4:31 7) Roadhog
5:56 8) Sigma
6:46 9) Winston
7:21 10) Wrecking Ball
8:24 11) Zarya

8:49 12) Ashe
9:04 13) Bastion
10:36 14) Cassidy
11:36 15) Echo
12:01 16) Genji
12:41 17) Hanzo
13:08 18) Junkrat
14:01 19) Mei
14:47 20) Pharah
16:02 21) Reaper
16:41 22) Sojourn
17:24 23) Soldier:76
18:33 24) Sombra
21:20 25) Symmetra
22:11 26) Torbjorn
22:56 27) Tracer
24:08 28) Widowmaker

25:15 29) Ana
25:34 30) Baptiste
26:46 31) Brigitte
27:29 32) Illari
29:43 33) Kiriko
30:13 34) Lifeweaver
32:31 35) Lucio
33:29 36) Mercy
34:32 37) Moira
36:17 38) Zenyatta

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TBH just play whatever you want, this tier list is just my opinion. You can play anything to Top 500. Ok now talk ya trash 👇

KarQ
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I'm glad whenever someone makes 2 separate tier lists So that way we have an idea of what a character is like in both levels of play

grimsdol
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Poor zen, from being low tier, to high tier, and then back to low tier.


power creep has him in a struggle 😔

johnnybernard
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Poor Zen. First, they nerf him, then they introduce a character that does everything he does but better, and now they also buff his most brutal counter to the point where he is completely unplayable when she's on the enemy team. One of the most unique and balanced supports, pushed into irrelevance by the blatant power creep that they refuse to address.

ZRO
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I'm glad that people are starting to recognize it's kinda broken for Illari to shoot hitscan Hanzo log after an entire season

uyzyqrj
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That extremely short 5 second review of Ana where you didn't point out the intense power of anti-heal was a little telling.

bombkirby
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"Cut that Tracer part out" The editor did not cut that tracer part out

s--b
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Agree with your tanks and dps for the most part, but Ana, Lifeweaver, and Kiri all should be up way higher on the list.

misterbensy
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you're definitely right about soldier, at least for the "everyone else" tier. If I'm losing on Cass (my main) I can just switch to soldier and instantly start doing way better. The improved range and mobility is huge. Especially since bap and illari are meta, you can actually challenge them a little bit on Soldier when they're hanging back.

ObeseWizard
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12:01 As a Genji player, the reason he feels useless to some is because of the overwhelming supports in the game. Idk how many times I’ve had to triple or quadruple slash with blade on a singular target because of immortality or pylon. Ntm his burst dmg combos aren’t enough when compared to what some supports can do

Kitten_Catapult
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I play a lot of lucio at the high plat/low diamond level and he feels really solid into new sombra, people arent great at utilizing speed boost so its often off cooldown to amp through the virus dps. The new translocate is also very chaseable and boop is great for uncloaking her as she falls out of the sky.

nerdherder
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I never thought I'd see Bastion in S tier. He's always been bottom tier for so long.

seafishie
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This Hog rework better put my man on the map🗣️

kanejackson
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As a sombra main: she is strong? Yes. Is she OP? No.
The main problem is that 90% of players are stubborn and don't pick counters against her and only stick with what they like. She is really easy to deal with, specially if you know how to use her.
The way I see sombra is that you need to think one thing: "how much of a asshole I can be?". One thing I like is to fight against othe sombra, because you just need to pay attention if she is attacking your backline or front line and stay close to your team, hack and virus her once she initiates.

paulopacheco
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For me the problem with the Brig is the comps that focus on taking down tanks. I understand that the ideal is to always try to hit the whipshot from a safe distance and keep the healing active for as long as possible, but when a comp appears with zarya, bastion and symmetra that are a problem for most tanks (at least on QP), it loses all value since activating healing is a challenge that isn't worth it when you have much safer options to heal and maintain consistent damage like moira and lucio. She's been my main since launch and I've always managed to get around the nerfs and maintain good gameplay, but lately it's been difficult

BakkufunKatsuhiro
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You cannot keep excusing Anas OP abilities calling them a 'skill shot' when she is the most played hero in the game. High skill floor and ceiling heros tend to have LOWER pick rates and do not give the immediate value Ana just whipping out Antinade has.

ALSO, while trying to argue that lamp and suzu are worse for the game and that antinade is needed because of the high healing. These are both, IMHO, bad arguments.

Lamp and suzu were both added post-Ana and are literally direct counters to anti-nade. Lamp allows characters to not die when antied, and suzu is the only main cleanse in the game. These abilites are needed if Anti-healing is something in the game without more cleanse choices, and perhaps if anti-healing was more common that would be the case. But it is not.
You cannot get rid or massively nerf these abilities and Keep antinade. that is inherently a buff for Ana.

Anti-nade JUSTIFIES the high healing, and because it is the ONLY counter to it, it both much too strong against it, giving the strongest non-ult ability even more value, but it allows them to excuse OP healing numbers by saying 'just pick ana'

Also lets be real, Anti is way easier to use in 5v5 and requires WAY LESS situational choices in use.

With the support passive you almost never need to use it on yourself of the other healer, and theres one less tank. You essentially have 3 less targets to heal. Add onto that the fact base healing has gotten pumped so much it is almost always a worse choice to use Anti-nade for healing your own team. You no longer need to make a judgement call. Just whip it at the enemy tank.

And because theres only one tank and less shields, the anti-nade it landing way more frequently and you cannot rotate out with your other tank.

Until you can be honest that your favourite pet hero is an issue for the game, i will continue not to take your opinions with the least weight physically possible. IDK what it would take but its frustrating to see a smart guy unable to see an issue just cause its his favourite character who is the main problem.

You just put out your video on whether support is overpowered, where you talk about Kiri and Baps abilites being OP despite them being some of the only real and specific counters for antinade.
5:37 talking about how baptise doesnt have a great lower win rate because its hard to pull of, but deserves to be nerfed.

6:52 Ana doesnt deserve much nerfs cause its a 'skill reliant' ... despite Ana being THE SINGLE MOST PLAYED HERO OF ANY CLASS, AND HAVING A BETTER WIN RATE THAN BAP AT LOWER RANKS.
Like.... how dont you see the hypocrisy there????
Saying it doesnt matter if lower skills cant do a strong move thats difficult for lower skill players to do is bad because its oppressive, but later excusing Ana's strong moves cause they are a 'skill shot' genuinely makes me do a double take. Its hypocritical as all hell.

spacepope
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I only started playing this year. At the beginning of my play I tried to play Sojourn, but was horrible. But recently I went back and tried her again, it is great. I think my aim is a lot better now, so I can hit the full energy rail shots more frequently. Also, it is fun just laying into the tanks, melting them like butter, or at least getting the stored up energy way up.

bigsassyster
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On console, xim ashe players have been dominating gm, a lot of them also play with mercy pockets

Kellestial
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I'm still making Zen work on some maps, but it's just so hard. It feels like everything kills you, be it flankers like Genji, Tracer, Sombra (particularly with the rework, it's brutal) but also longer range heroes like Ashe, Hanzo, Soj, widow, etc. The former category is obvious, since there's less peel in 5v5; in the case of the latter category, the lack of a shield means that to get value requires you to put yourself in danger to those heroes more. And it's gotten steadily worse since season 4. I quite frequently see people getting so much more value on mercy than I do on Zen, despite being so much easier. And that's for me, who actually can still pop off on Zen, the very few times I see someone else play Zen it doesn't go nearly as well. None of that even accounts for the fact that Illari is just better in the same comps now. Can we do something about the blatant power creep, Blizzard. And also fix Zen's hitbox, he's got a dumpster truck ass

wandregisel
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I miss good old days when supports were killable

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