I Broke Epic Auto Towers

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Today we check out Epic Auto Towers, a fun auto battler that combines typical Tower Defense with Super Auto Pets into a lot of fun. We start with a main tower that has our health, each time it gets destroyed losing one, or instantly losing if a boss takes it down. So we have to put a bunch of towers in the way to make sure all enemies are being defeated. But that sounds too simple and boring - what if we use infinitely scaling damage and health growth? So not only does it infinitely go up, but also infinitely increases more and more? Well, then we achieve to hit the max numbers possible in the game and the furthest anyone can get.

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So i was watching sifd's video the other day where he got 70k stats, i was like "wow that's amazing"
Now me watching Dex completely decimate the game beyond any reason "the 70k was nothing after all huh"

pest
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Fun fact, the growth was more than generic exponential growth :) The base of the exponent (the percentage with which the tower stats increase) grow as well (with roughly square root growth but exactly sqrt(x*sqrt(x))). This means the function describing your growth will be of the form x^x. Absolutely insane growth.

lucasman
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in the end you would have needed one million hits to defeat the boss. then 1000 times more. Soon the fight against the boss would taker longer than the age of the universe.

ruben
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omg Dex, that was amazing. you managed to grow numbers, not linear, or exponential, but to the power of itself and increased further by princesses. amazing stuff XD

westyy
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For every 1 scientific notation the bosses health was over your tower's attack it will take 10x more hits to defeat. (In base 10 adding a zero is multiplying by 10, scientific notation is how many zeros follow the number). Meaning just 3 notations higher and you're looking at 1, 000 headbutts ---> 4 is 10, 000 ---> 5 is 100, 000 and so on. Meaning it would start taking days, then weeks, then months, then years for the boss to go down.

OnePieceRooster
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Dex got stuck in game world with no exit 😢

he becomes an anime protagonist

skywatcher
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Some rumors say that the boss is hitting the tower to this day…

two-wozr
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I am quite surprised to see a game that actually expects the numbers to get this big. The highest number most programming languages can work with by default is roughly 1.8e308, or 2^1024. The fact that it has a safeguard for this totally surprised me though, I did expect the game to just let you hit that max and break it.

rysea
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"oh Scheiße" hab ich gefühlt xD

steelthrower-
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hey the boss only needed to attack 471 000 times to kill itself

Necrotechian
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I would be so funny if a dev watched this thinking how badly could he break it and then being like oh, he broke it that badly.

criminal
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Nah Dex, you dont goofed around you absolute madlad. Keep the insanity in your Videos going, but dont forget to sometimes TOUCH SOME GRASS!!!

ThMousyMouse
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I love how dex always says “sorry guys this is my 2nd time playing so i will make a lot of mistakes” the. Proceeds to absolutely wreck everything like he developed the game for himself

nathanhirsch
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I am guessing the reason why the stats capped at e288 has nothing to do with the dev putting in a cap manually. I think it has to do with how doubles (a type of comma number in code and probably the type used, as it is the only commonly used type that is able to produce numbers this large) are calculated.
For those who don't care for a detailed explanation, basically the numbers got so big the additional stats were too small to make a calculable change for the computer, while the boss scaled enough to overcome this mathematical error.
For those who wish to know the details, it's a bit complicated but here is as simple as I can think of.
Here is how doubles are represented in computers. Doubles are 64 bits (ones and zeros) long. The first bit is the sign (+ or -), the next 11 are used to calculate the exponent (I will call the number you can get from these bits e) and the last 52 are used to calculate the fraction. The last 52 are bits are bitshifted (bassically move the coma but in binary) 53 bits to the right (that means less, it is called right because of how it looks in binary, shifting 2, 2^1, 0b010, 0b means in binary, 1 right would be 0b001, 1, 2^0, shifting it 1 left would be 0b100, 4, 2^2) eg. 2^52 would become 2^-1 (I will call this bishifted number f).
This is the formula to calculate the number:
(+/-) 2^(e-1023)*(1+f)

Doubles lose precision as they grow larger constantly requiring larger changes to actually make any changes. Either that or the dev actually capped the number to avoid a buffer overflow, as that could in some cases crash your pc and in the very worst cases entirely brick your pc (though modern OSs should prevent this). I still believe it is the former though as doubles behave weirdly as they grow very large and you were still able to increase it. None of this weird behaviour is on the dev btw. These calculations are done at a hardware level with the only way around it being writing custom binary operations, which would be actual madness, as well as it being a lot slower.

robbegeusens
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The Irresistible Number meets Immovable Notation.

DefinatelyNotAI
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One thing to note is, for your next runs, you could use the ancient tower´s ability

What it does is that it replaces all commons with ruin towers, all uncommons with defender towers and rares with a moai that I cant remember the name of

The first two arent that important, but the rare version works like a shop for tokens, each level granting acces to another token trade. 2 of them are very good, one gives percentage based stats and the other one makes a part of all temporary buffs permanent

I dont know if there is a unique interaction with the malicious towers sooo you will have to try I guess

Burnt_Embers
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The game puts a hard cap on the player to ensure defeat,
Dex: Hold my 5 beers + keyboard + sunglasses.

JosiahBradley
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"That's not even a wall... That's a whole universe waiting for them!"

thbanan
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What a legend Dex is. I’m honored to be able to see all this road since beginning, when Bible Evolved just start and talk about Dex in he’s videos

SEproductin
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Dex just wanted to exit but it won't let him. That's what happens when he plays with all shafts and no balls.

xredgambit