Good and Evil

Ep.408

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[therealmag]

Bro... If u don't have a Mistake Tracker then... how are you supposed to make progress???? remember: "You only learn when you stop making the same mistake twice"

[danielbailey]

No, it is a practice… it’s easy to do what’s wrong, it’s hard to do what’s right… unless you practice good, then it’s your nature… the “there are 2 wolfs in you, the one you feed wins”

[martymoo]

I love hearing Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris have these sorts of discussions. ❤

[danielhanawalt]

If good is a myth...wouldn't bad also be a myth? If that's the case, nothing is off limits. I think we are hard wired to know good from bad. Sometimes the wires get crossed and we cross the line between good and bad. Everyone crosses the line from time to time. Try as we might to stay on the good side of the line.

[ColinDakotaKelly]

DUDE YOU GUYS JUST HIT ON THE BEST SHARED ANALOGY IVE BETWEEN YOU TWO IVE SEEN YET, THIS IS PROGRESS, what a beautiful metaphor for life

[mhelsher]

"Goodness is the only investment that never fails" ~ Henry David Thoreau

[Ali-ehb]

Such concise elegance in philosophy... It is soothing to me.

[colinhay]

Sometimes it seems like part of the usefulness of the religious framework for morality acts as an antidote to potentially going insane trying to define precisely what good is.

[BelieliSvenenklo]

I said once, that everything that happen could be broken down too good, it just depends how deep you can go before you cut your limits

[RebisRam]

I could be wrong but I think there was a misunderstanding between these two. I believe Jordan sees our current religious models as good approximations for a universal truth that can be seen amongst all lifeforms throughout the universe. Sam sees our moral models as potentially singularly unique to Earth and this dipping into the valley to reach a higher peak would lead us to stripping away our humanity for something entirely foreign and alien but potentially better than what we currently have

[lesliecunliffe]

Myth makes it possible to believe in solution without necessarily fully realising the solution in one's own life. Myth builds a world. In contrast, critique aims to undermine myth: myth proposes, critique disposes. The fallacy of our time is to think that critique can take on the role of myth. It can't. Critique never makes the breakfast. It can only frame judgments about the quality of the breakfast. Nobody lives outside myth.

[bojnebojnebojne]

In order for progress and growth to happen, destruction has to happen.
Destruction and growth go hand in hand at any scale on any spectrum

[TashiRogo]

If good is a myth then having a preference is a myth.

[dahlbaker]

The moral landscape cannot be modeled without empathy on one ridge of the saddle and wisdom on the other ridge. The valley (a nescessary descent) is best described as, the shadow of death.

[MR-G-Rod]

Propaedeutic:

(of an area of study) serving as a preliminary instruction or as an introduction to further study.

You can have a Propaedeutic Myth.

That will be a preliminary introduction to the concept of Good and Evil.

[Στελλα-ρσ]

If a person doesn't help others or even thinking other people just his self its bad

[Cinderella]

God is the origin of love, truth, goodness, and beauty. We all seek these things because it’s a good thing. Love, truth, beauty and even happiness is obtainable if we appreciate what we have instead of focusing on what we don’t have. Each soul is a diamond in the rough. Thank you both. Will continue listening later. Ciao ✝️❤️

[yonayehezkel]

Whom Can We Trust If No One Is Trustworthy?
One of my favorite quips from Mark Twain’s The Adventures of Tom Sawyer is when Tom is defined as “a glittering hero…the pet of the old, the envy of the young, ” and there were “some that believed that he would be President, yet, if he escaped hanging.” With these few words, Twain captured the essence of leadership in our world. Those who get to the top are the fiercest, most determined, and most ruthless. Today, the latter quality has become so intense that we can no longer believe our leaders, and certainly not trust them to have our best interest in mind.
I am not accusing any leader in particular, or even leaders as a whole. It is simply that in an egoistic world, where people vie to topple one another on their way to the top, the one at the top is clearly the one who trampled over and knocked down more people than anyone else. Concisely, to get to the top in an egoistic world you have to be the biggest egoist.
So how do we know whom to trust? We don’t know and we cannot know. All we know is that we are in the dark.
In a culture of unhinged selfishness, any conspiracy theory seems reasonable, while truth is nowhere to be found. When every person who says or writes something is trying to promote some hidden agenda, you have no way of knowing who is right, what really happened, or if anything happened at all.
The only way to get some clarity in the news and goodwill from our leaders is to say “Enough!” to our current system and build something entirely independent. The guiding principle of such a system should be “information only, ” no commentary. Commentary means that information has already been skewed. Information means saying only what happened, as much as possible, not why, and not who is to blame and who we should praise.
Concurrently, we must begin a comprehensive process of self-teaching. We have to know not only what is happening, but why we skew and distort everything. In other words, we have to know about human nature and how it inherently presents matters according to its own subjective view, which caters to one’s own interest. To “clear” ourselves from that deformity, we must learn how to rise above our personal interest and develop an equally favorable attitude toward others. This is our only guarantee that our interpretation of things will be even and correct.
Once we achieve such an attitude, we will discover that the bad things we see in our world reflect our own, internal wickedness. Our ill-will toward others creates a world where ill-will governs, and so the world is filled with wickedness and cruelty. Therefore, all we need in order to create positive leadership—and to generally eliminate ill-will from the world—is to generate goodwill within us. When we nurture goodwill toward others, we will fill the world with goodwill. As a result, the world will fill with kindness and compassion. By changing ourselves, we will create a world that is opposite from the world we have created through our desires to govern, patronize, and often destroy other people.

[jimhughes]

Good brings peace.... Evil brings suffering.... It ain't rocket science boys...

[sasaradetic]

Depends on what side your on.
The other question is, how do you know is right?
You do not, or is it?
God given free will, you can be led only to the door. What`s after that, is up to you.
Good luck.
Take care.
God bless you.