descendants the rise of red deep dive

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Descendants 4 is here! Let’s talk about the plot, deleted scenes and characters, prequel novel, and dolls. 💖

0:00 Intro
04:16 Movie
44:29 Analysis
51:03 Deleted Content
59:05 Novel
01:15:52 Dolls
01:18:00 Conclusion

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I legit thought it'd be like the villain kids were originally gonna be the ones to prank Bridgette, but because red and chloe went back in time and messed with things, ella ends up being the one to pull the prank on bridgette

I was, genuinely surprised that didn't happen

TheRealMikanTsumiki
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Descendants 5 should be the son of Frollo from hunchback of of Notre dame starting a cult

Beep
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If you think of the movie as its own separate thing outside the trilogy it becomes a lot better. Still had questionable plot decisions though.

Riverr
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im here specifically to hear sarah rip into the movie for making Hades a literal god a student at this high school

Marsa
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55:35: Why would Chloe be surprised her mother wasn't born into royalty? Isn't the the whole point of a Cinderella story????
Do people not remember that she obviously wasn't born a Princess???? Like she did marry the Prince obviously so wouldn't that be obvious??? I guess it's a shock because Cinderella is such a benevolent, and gracious ruler and probably becomes that way over time. I think Cinderella in this universe becomes kind and benevolent because she remembers how Bridgit used to be, and she respected how her kindness made her stronger? Which is why Cinderella decided to become kind and welcoming in the future, I guess she was probably inspired by Bridgit?

obehiikhigbonoaremen
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China the actor for uma actually had a close relationship with cameron so that's probably why the scene is there

Skullmask
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As a mom who just bought her kids Descendants: Rise of Red Halloween costumes AND WIGS, my conspiracy theory is that everyone had shitty Party City wigs so they can squeeze another $20 each out of parents. Also, for the love of god, get a drag queen as the wig woman on this movie. They don’t even need a big budget, the girls are used to doing more with less, and every wig won’t look like they just whipped it out for he bag and threw it on.

TangentialTif
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"if you were 9 when the first movie came out, you are now 18" was the sentence that absolutely shattered me. Wtf you mean there's people who grew up with descendants that are now legal adults

carolkoski
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One thing that’s been going around and around my head since I watched this movie, is how Red is now fundamentally a stranger in her own life. Having such a different mom means that Wonderland was not in a dictatorship, and the new timeline, Ried would’ve grown up with friends and hobbies and love and a good relationship with her mom. She wouldn’t have a lifetime of training on how to be a cruel ruler bouncing around in her head. There wouldnt be anything to rebel against. She might not be close confidants with Maddox. This leaves me to believe that there must be some sort of insane adjustment period as Red slowly realizes that none of her memories are true anymore. To her mom, it might seem like Red was possessed by a surly bitter neglected stranger who flinches away from her for no reason and assumes the worst when talking to her. There’s even a risk that the “new Red” is still running around there somewhere. I think it would be incredibly lonely, even if all the changes are for the better, to find out that the world you came from no longer exists.

MadamMelonMeow
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I dont like that Chloe said "it should be more peaceful now that there arent villain kids" like it just sounds mean to say about kids imprisoned on an island for their parents mistakes.

InternetsPedestrian
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I don't have a solution for how they could've done the tribute better, I think what you said could've made it a little better, but it always felt a little corporate to me. To me, it felt like Disney didn't want to address it maybe bc they felt like they already had in the royal wedding short, but they knew people would be upset if they didn't. So they just slapped an old picture up and called it a day. And I know China and Cameron were good friends for a long time so I understand her being the one to do it, but Carlos and Uma weren't really friends, so that also took me out of it a bit

ax.olotls
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They should have use Madam Mim than Morganna. It’s weird for them to choose a random character than the one actually in sword in the stone.
I was so worried when I checked the timeline there’s only 30 minutes left but the plot still building up. The ending feels empty. I would like to see Red disappearing because Bridget is no longer evil. In present day, Chloe met the new Red which has an upgraded outfit

alishanightshade
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Me and my sister tried watching the movie the other day, everything was so confusing to the point we couldn’t finish it. Thanks for this video so me and my sister could understand the movie without dying laughing at the wigs.

gloomiiii
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I'm actually glad someone else isn't a massive fan of the tribute because if you're a heartless shrew, so am I. It felt like a ploy for sympathy ratings imo, like I don't mind that they continued the series but I think they needed to either find a better way to offer tribute, or not kill off the character - why couldn't he be off with the others? What happened to Cam was a tragedy and he deserves to be remembered but I don't know, I feel it would've been better to have his memory live on in his character.

jessk
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I think the memories of Merlin Academy in the bonus chapter are somewhat a hint to what’s to come and/or reference to a potential time paradox only he can recall of what will happen w Red and Chloe

DSIrocker
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Honestly, even if it wasn't your fault, kneeling in front of your ex best friend who was humiliated and revived severe trauma seems like the least you can do to try and make them feel better. Seems like she just wants a sense of control after it was lost to her. Not that what she's doing is okay, but with how "nice" Cinderella is supposed to be she is very cold to her ex best friend who again went through something very traumatic.

Also uliana, soften your pride, that incident was YOUR fault. She warned you not to eat the feathers.

Deadspooky-Gore
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I really felt like this movie had an interesting premise they just weren't able to fulfill. Time travel movies can be hit or miss, but when it comes to a franchise that already has 3 movies it could have worked. However, I didn't like that it didn't feel like they went back in time. Using ship names and using words like "vibe" feel way too modern and unrealistic. It doesn't *need* to be old timey, but it would have been the perfect time to try and replicate how older disney princess movies were in terms of dialect or style. Also, I feel like they didn't utilize the characters as best as they could have. I would have love seeing them subtly fixing what happened by Bridget gaining more friends throughout the movie who ended up stopping the prank. We already had a lot of characters brought up in "Life Is Sweeter" who we could have gotten closer to as the movie progressed and would have been a foil to Ulianna's crew.

DayvonR
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Even with all the copyright issues you were given, I'm glad you got that "ehw" face in from Red

LazyLoungingHippo
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OK here’s what I would’ve done with the Carlos photo thing, right? We are in fairy godmother‘s office Carlos was dating Jane, godmother‘s daughter couldn’t they have just had like a candid photo of Jane and Carlos like on her desk or something? Then it feels intentional verses the good old lifetouch portrait that is only there for the tribute.

darththespian
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Yeah lol I also thought it sounded stupid every time Red complains about her mom and it's just like "oh she doesn't listen to me" when the mom in question is doing murder and trying to force her to do the same. But I also think that, considering the target audience, it is likely that kids watching this would immediately grasp the concept of Bridget being a magical dictator as a wider fantasy/disney movie metaphor for her being a controlling and abusive mother. Like yes it makes no sense and real dictatorships exist in real life but the movie focuses on parent-child relationships because that's what will reach the children watching, much like how the first movie had part of its central conflict revolve around parent-child relationships with the VK's and how their parents' reputations and expectations affected their chances at a normal life, rather than really going into the actual murders and atrocities the parents committed and taught their children to repeat

joline